Replay 5000 remote

[dmk11]

I recently upgrade to a Replay 5k from a Showstopper. I hate this new remote (at least compared to the old one).

I have a question to other replay 5k users out there:
What button do you use to change the video input of the TV?

I used my JP1 cable to make the mute button as my tv/vcr button of my TV.. but that's annoying because sometimes I do want to use mute.

I only have the replay & tv to control, so I really don't need the extender. Besides, it's too complicated for me right now.

Anyone can help this newbie?

[The Robman]

Maybe you should get a Showstopper remote to work the R5k? If have a bunch of them available at $20 each (plus $2 shipping).

If you only need to control the RTV and a TV with the R5k remote, and you're happy with just 4 TV functions (ie, power and volume) then you do not need the extender.

Rob
http://www.hifi-remote.com

[dmk11]

I guess if there's no way of doing it without using an extender, I will try that first. But I might take up your offer on buying an old remote.

Can I make the Replay & TV buttons to be non-power on/off button, instead, it just selects that device and have another button I would sacrifice (maybe the CA button) as the power button? So then it would be more like the older remote where I have to press TV then power to turn on/off the TV. That way, I can have the whole remote for each function.. ?

[The Robman]

With the extender you can pretty much make any button do whatever you want, but without it there's very little you can do (which if course, is why we wrote the extender).

Rob

[dmk11]

Well, this procrastinator finally got off her butt and installed the extender 1.2 to the RTV 5k remote.

So far, I can press: TV-1 to control my TV (but only limited to vol +/-, mute) and TV-2 to control my RTV.

So I'm not much better than before I upgraded and I have extra keys to press before controlling a device.

I did this late last night, so I haven't played much with it yet.

A can of new questions opened:
1. In the KM spreadsheet's, if you select RTV 5k remote, it doesn't allow me to assign keys to the other special buttons. If I select the "RTV Remote", then I can assign key to the other special buttons, but it doesn't work with my remote after I upgrade it. Is there a "RTV 5k extended" remote type?
2. What does DSM stands for? When I searched the extender readme, there are no definition of DSM.

[The Robman]

So far, I can press: TV-1 to control my TV (but only limited to vol +/-, mute) and TV-2 to control my RTV.

So I'm not much better than before I upgraded and I have extra keys to press before controlling a device.

I did this late last night, so I haven't played much with it yet.

A can of new questions opened:
1. In the KM spreadsheet's, if you select RTV 5k remote, it doesn't allow me to assign keys to the other special buttons. If I select the "RTV Remote", then I can assign key to the other special buttons, but it doesn't work with my remote after I upgrade it. Is there a "RTV 5k extended" remote type?

I see the mistake you are making. For the R5k remote, TV mode only includes the buttons that are allowed in the un-extended mode. What you need to do is use VCR mode for the TV upgrade, then you'll be allowed to program all of the buttons.

2. What does DSM stands for? When I searched the extender readme, there are no definition of DSM.

Go to the FAQ page, select "Definitions" then select "DSM"
http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/faq/

[sfhub]

I used my JP1 cable to make the mute button as my tv/vcr button of my TV.. but that's annoying because sometimes I do want to use mute.

If you are still planning on doing this with your new JP1 upgrade,
look at the section regarding "Shift Cloaking"

You should be able to define TV/Input for Mute and use "Shift-Mute"
for the real mute. I believe Shift by default on the 5k extender is "TV"

[dmk11]

I see the mistake you are making. For the R5k remote, TV mode only includes the buttons that are allowed in the un-extended mode. What you need to do is use VCR mode for the TV upgrade, then you'll be allowed to program all of the buttons.

That makes sense!

So I did what you suggested. I selected "Replay 5000" for the Remote type and "VCR" as the device type (see picture below)

http://www.freetinker.com/photos/stuff/RTV_KM?full=1

and I loaded up the device code and programmed my remote using IR 4.01.

Well, after I did that, I can't control the TV anymore (but still can control the RTV). Of course, if I upload the TV code, it'll control my remote just fine.

What am I doing wrong?

sfhub, i'm trying your suggestion next.

[mr_d_p_gumby]

So I did what you suggested. I selected "Replay 5000" for the Remote type and "VCR" as the device type and I loaded up the device code and programmed my remote using IR 4.01.

Did you also change the TV device button to VCR/1250, or did you leave it set to TV/1250? The device button has to match the upgrade in both type and number.

[dmk11]

Did you also change the TV device button to VCR/1250, or did you leave it set to TV/1250? The device button has to match the upgrade in both type and number.

You mean when I program it in IR?
yes I did.

[The Robman]

So I did what you suggested. I selected "Replay 5000" for the Remote type and "VCR" as the device type (see picture below)

http://www.freetinker.com/photos/stuff/RTV_KM?full=1

and I loaded up the device code and programmed my remote using IR 4.01.

Well, after I did that, I can't control the TV anymore (but still can control the RTV). Of course, if I upload the TV code, it'll control my remote just fine.

What am I doing wrong?

OK, I looked at your snap shot and I notice that you didn't enter any device codes for this upgrade, which means you will default to a device code of 0, which I'm pretty sure is not what you want. If this code is supposed to be modelled after TV/0250, you will need a device code of 128.

[dmk11]

OK, I looked at your snap shot and I notice that you didn't enter any device codes for this upgrade, which means you will default to a device code of 0, which I'm pretty sure is not what you want. If this code is supposed to be modelled after TV/0250, you will need a device code of 128.

THANK YOU!

That was exactly it.

Now, how did you know it was 128? Well, more like : how would I figure out it's suppose to be 128? Is it from devices4.xls? The thing that confused me is the description of devices4.zip in the yahoo files is
"Use this spreadsheet to get all the EFCs for all the setup codes in the 15-1994 remote."

So I thought it's not for my remote.

I couldn't find that much information on that field in the help files, although I might be looking at the wrong ones. There are so many out there!

[johnsfine]

Now, how did you know it was 128? Well, more like : how would I figure out it's suppose to be 128? Is it from devices4.xls? The thing that confused me is the description of devices4.zip in the yahoo files is
"Use this spreadsheet to get all the EFCs for all the setup codes in the 15-1994 remote."

It is in devices4.

Devices4 is based on the 15-1994, but that shouldn't stop you from consulting it for other remotes. It won't tell you whether a given setup code is in your remote, but it does tell you what a given setup code is, so long as that setup code is in the 15-1994.

I doubt Rob looked at Devices4. There is so much discussion of Panasonic TV's in various remote control forums and Pansonic TV's are so consistent between models, that I expect most of the IR experts remember the basic facts about them (such as device number 128).