JP1 Remotes

unclemiltie · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject:

in my zeal to clean things up in the extender, I introduced a bug (that Binky had actually already fixed) in the Multiplex protocol in V0.06. I've fixed it and updated the file.

If you are using V0.06 AND you need device multiplex, you should get it again. If you're not using V0.06 this has no impact on you
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unclemiltie · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject:

unclemiltie · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject:

Well....

I spoke too soon. Turns out after careful examination the way that the $03 length keymoves work requires that (1) the key value is a valid key value and (2) that the key is in the list of valid keys for that device type. Thus, using this method isn't going to work.

So, this is going to be a restriction in how the extender can be used. To use the Pause, the pause value in hex has to be followed by another (value is ignored) hex value. So, in your example for 3.0 seconds, you would want

$1E $00

(and yes, I know you tried this and it didn't work. still investigating)
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sriram · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 44

binky123 · Expert Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 1292

I'm fairly certain the Pause protocol will work if you enter 1E 00 into the Hex box on the Special Protocols tabsheet in IR.exe. Can you post your .IR file where you tried it? I tested using X_TV;PageUp to simplify things and it seemed to delay correctly(at least the LED light stayed on).

sriram · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 44

here's the file I'm using.

After some more testing, pause seems to work if I have it on the TV device before hitting the macro, but it doesn't work if I have it on any other devcie. It's like the X_TV doesn't work....

greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Sriram,
Your comment about it's like X_TV isn't working is what I was running into. I have a macro that selects TV (X_TV) and changes the input. Then X_RCVR (select AVR) and change it's input. The X_TV + TV input change doesnt' execute, but the X_RCVR + RCVR input change does. Wierd. I haven't had time to work on it, but your comments were too familiar to not chime in on.
Best,
jeff

unclemiltie · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:18 am Post subject:

re: jeff's comment

hmmm... That'll require a bit more thinking

I can't understand why X_TV would not work and X_other stuff would work. unless I got some of the key definitions off in the RDF or in the extender. I'll have to take a look at that.
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sriram · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 44

I think it's common to all X_

after some more testing here's what I think is happening:

my "pause" keymove is on TV/MUTE
the macro I'm using to test goes like this: X_TV;VOL+;MUTE;VOL+

If I have the remote on TV mode before hitting the macro everything goes as planned. If, however, I have it on some other mode then when processing the macro the pause keymove is ignored, and the real TV/MUTE is executed (muting the TV instead of doing the pause).

It seems to be the same for all keymoves, so more generally:

if you X_SOMEDEVICE in a macro and call a keymove, the keymove will be ignored and the underlying real key executed unless you are already in SOMEDEVICE mode before hitting the macro.

hope that makes sense Wink

edit: a simple way to test:

have two devices with a menu key (I'll use TV and CBL).
(1) Make a keymove that sets TV/SETTINGS = CBL/SETTINGS.
(2) Make this macro (in addition to the defaults): X_TV;SETTINGS

if you hit "TV" then the macro you'll get CBL/SETTINGS
if you hit "CBL" then the macro you'll get TV/SETTINGS

vickyg2003 · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:38 am Post subject:

It sounds like the active/saved device register confusion wasn't fixed in the x_ device case.

unclemiltie · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: new version posted

Binky found this one as well. A swap of the R_Dev and R_DevA when searching for an advance code. (and hence you were getting the current device when you were looking for the pause protocol which is really just a sophisticated keymove)

V 0.07 should fix this!

it's here:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=5490
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sriram · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 44

There still seems to be a bit of weirdness in the device selection. Here are the symptoms:

again have two devices with a settings key (I'll use TV and CBL).
(1) Make a keymove that sets CBL/SETTINGS = TV/SETTINGS.
(2) Add pause on TV/Phantom1
(3) Make this macro (in addition to the defaults): X_CBL;SETTINGS;X_TV;Phantom1;SETTINGS

In theory the macro should get you the tv settings, pause, then the tv settings again.

What I get instead is
(1) if I hit CBL first then the macro: settings on the TV and no pause and nothing else
(2) if I hit TV first then the macro: settings on the TV and settings on the CBL and no pause.

Kinda weird; I'll see if I can narrow it down further.

Evan_s · Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 313

Any more news on this extender? I just got my Direct TV installed so I finally have a good reason to get my OCAP atlases going but I'm definitely going to want to use the extender.

speaker.guy · Exile Island Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 260

Just a social comment, no insult or other bad things intended:
I will never do this. There is not enough time left in my life to both create a extender and use the device it is intended to control!.......

vickyg2003 · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: