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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: Atlas OCAP Master Power functionality disabled? |
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Has anyone experienced this?
When upgrading the Atlas OCAP, the master power functionality described in the manual no longer works. I can put a power macro on the power key, but it no longer works only in cable mode, as described in the manual. It works in all modes, which defeats the purpose.... |
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IBNobody
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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NoNoNo! That's a GOOD thing! It means you can assign a power-on macro that uses phantom buttons. Meaning, you can have it power up stuff based on whatever device mode you're in. |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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NO no NO NO NO!!!
Only if there are a lot of phantom buttons available, which there are not! |
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Capn Trips Expert
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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49 buttons and 49 shifted buttons=98 locations where you can store keymoves and macros.
Are you telling me that EVERY shifted button has something assigned to it and you have NO PLACE to save what you would intuitively put on a phantom button?
I absolutely support the idea that one wants to make the remote as intuitively useful to the USER as possible, but if the programming has to be a bit - shall we say - inelegant (by using, for example, shifted arrow buttons or some others for storing macros and DKPs that you want to invoke from OTHER macros), then so be it.
I respectfully suggest that the presence or absence of an additional phantom button or two is immaterial. _________________ Beginners - Read this thread first
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binky123 Expert
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Atlas OCAP Master Power functionality disabled? |
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speaker.guy wrote: | Has anyone experienced this?
When upgrading the Atlas OCAP, the master power functionality described in the manual no longer works. I can put a power macro on the power key, but it no longer works only in cable mode, as described in the manual. It works in all modes, which defeats the purpose.... |
IR7 doesn't support the built-in Device Specific Macros functionality. Creating macros within IR7 will default to General Macros. Use SET-978 on the Power or TuneIn keys for DSMs. Once a DSM created, you should be able to edit it within IR7 and retain its DSM ability. |
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IBNobody
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Atlas OCAP Master Power functionality disabled? |
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binky123 wrote: | speaker.guy wrote: | Has anyone experienced this?
When upgrading the Atlas OCAP, the master power functionality described in the manual no longer works. I can put a power macro on the power key, but it no longer works only in cable mode, as described in the manual. It works in all modes, which defeats the purpose.... |
IR7 doesn't support the built-in Device Specific Macros functionality. Creating macros within IR7 will default to General Macros. Use SET-978 on the Power or TuneIn keys for DSMs. Once a DSM created, you should be able to edit it within IR7 and retain its DSM ability. |
How is editing possible? Can IR not see the portion of memory that holds the DSM flag? |
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binky123 Expert
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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IR currently ignores the device mode so it'll bring up the DSM macro that you created using the remote and present it as a Global Macro. It will retain the existing device mode(device specific or global) and allow you to edit it. |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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None of the "cheat sheets" I have has any info on the '978'. Please provide info or a reference.
Thanks
SG |
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binky123 Expert
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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If you want the CBL Power Macro, you'll have to create it on the remote itself. If you create it in IR7, it will become a Global Macro. Once you download the CBL Power Macro into IR7, it should allow you to edit the macro and still retain its CBL mode behavior. |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Tried creating it on the remote. It still behaves global.... |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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"Use SET-978 on the Power or TuneIn keys for DSMs. Once a DSM created, you should be able to edit it within IR7 and retain its DSM ability."
You still didn't explain what this (specifically 978) is! |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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No one (not even thg guy who suggested it) knows what setup;978 is or does??? |
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jimdunn
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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The standard way to set the Master power macro, according to the manual for the OCAP DVR 1056 appears to be SET-995
The manual is available online at: UEI Download link
This is an image of the relevant page:Master Power Manual Page
I'm afraid I can't find SET-978 in that manual, so if it does something, it seems to be undocumented.
(or maybe just a simple typo from binky123 ?) |
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speaker.guy Exile Island Resident
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I have the manual, and using set995 results in a global macro... |
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binky123 Expert
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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SET-978 works the same way as SET-995 except it doesn't set the device mode to the Global Type. It uses the current device mode. It probably isn't documented anywhere. SET-978 only works for Power and the TuneIn keys.
I made a mistake about SET-995 for the Atlas 3033 as it does create a Global Macro. I was reading the Atlas 3000 manual and it mentioned the Power Macro only working in CBL mode but this doesn't apply to the Atlas 3033.
You can also edit the RAW Data to change the device mode for each macro to make it device specific but you'll have to identify where the macro is located within the RAW Data tabsheet. |
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