JP1 Remotes

alexinc · Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Dresden, GER

ok, i'm new to the whole jp1.x-thing, but willing to learn and already tried to make my first steps on this area... Smile

here is the deal: using my ofa kameleon 6 (2nd gen) URC-8206 for many years now (with nokia-tv, kenwood-cd+tuner and loomax-dvd) i thought, why not using it with vista media center on hp tx1000-series laptop too!? after trying to update with official ofa-wav-files (SAT/1272 or VCR/1972) and using ir-learning i'm stuck on this. after ir-learning at least media center sometimes reactes on pressing a button - but not more than onces a given time and not on all buttons. so i found registry-value that should help using universal remotes on media center. that didnt do the trick as well... Sad

now i found this board and hope grows again!
reading and trying a lot didnt help me either. here is what i did so far.
downloading keymap master 9.15 and setting it up to UCR-8206, SAT, 1272. Protocol MCE, 4, 15. Functions i changed to EFC 5 with 5-digit EFC from function num 0 to zoom with values 00000-00064. these functions i mapped to buttons 1:1 (e.g. 0 = num 0 and so on). this should give me the code (on setup, center frame) needed to copy in ir.exe???
now i downloaded ir.exe 7.15 and started "FromRob.IR" as i dont have a cable, want to upgrade via wave-file and cannot add device without having cable-connection!? so i deleted all content from fromrob.ir (key moves, macros, special protocols, protocols, learned signals) and all but one device. this one i edited and copied the content from keymap master. now i wanted to export it as wave-file (of course after having downloaded ir2wav 1.9). i get the file, but feel unsure about what kind of export i need to do. at least the ones i choose (settings, upgrades) dont work. when trying to upgrade remote, it already turns on again before wave-file finished playing. i'm not sure about using the whole image, as i need to include the information on tv, dvd, tuner+cd too!??

well, sooo many questions and lot of work to do... anyone that can help me out a little??? thx i.a. alex

The Robman · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:

According to my files SAT/1272 is factory installed in your remote, so you shouldn't have needed a WAV file to get it. Does your media center work with this code?

If I recall correctly, there's a toggle bit in the signal, which would explain why your learned signals only work once as that is a known side effect of learning a toggle signal. If you were to replace the learned functions with advanced code based keymoves, this would fix the problem. Let us know which functions you needed to learn and I'll give you the advanced codes.

Here's a KM file for the Windows Media Center:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1015

As for the rest of what you were trying to do, you're way off base, but I don't have time to explain everything right now, so hopefully someone else will jump and help with that.
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alexinc · Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Dresden, GER

first of all, many thx for your fast replies! as i'm at work right now, i cannot clear things up the next minutes... but i guess i'm getting closer to a solution. Smile

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:51 am Post subject:

If SAT/1272 doesn't work, then the KM file that I posted won't work either as it's essentially the same code, just with more buttons.

With regards to exporting WAV files from IR, you are correct that if you select "Entire Image" it will over-write everything, so for that reason you might want to just export the section(s) that you're changing. However, assuming that you want to add an upgrade, this will overlay (ie, delete) any existing upgrades that you have, so if you want to keep them you should start by importing the last WAV file that you used to add upgrades and then add your upgrades to this image.
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alexinc · Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Dresden, GER

at least i will try it and let you know! otherwise it would be very helpful, if someone could tell my how to find out or where to get the fitting codes for the buttons (will start searching the forum for it now), so i can try to create a working km-file for 8206. Smile

its getting quite interesting! Wink

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:

The quickest and easiest way is to load an upgrade that someone else has already created for the device in question, assuming that they have included the codes for all of the buttons. To do it yourself, you would learn the buttons using your OEM remote and then download the memory, then the JP1 software would tell you what the codes are for the buttons that you learned, but you need a JP1 cable to do that. There is no sure fire way to get codes for individual buttons without a learning remote and JP1 cable.
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alexinc · Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Dresden, GER

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject:

My recommendation is for you to order a JP1 cable from Tommy, then you'll be able to learn the signals from the MCE remote and use the captured data to build a new upgrade. Even though the learned signals only work once, the upgrade would solve that problem.
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