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lostdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: Konka KP2762UY TV |
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1. Device: Konka KP2762UY (remote KK-Y261N)
2. Type of device: TV
3. JP1 Remote model: RS 15-2117
4. JP1 user? Yes
5. Still have original remote? Yes
6. Checked the file section? Yes, not found
7. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
8. Partially working setup code? No
9. Learning remote question? NO
Bought this cheapo TV from Bestbuy. I'm a JP1 n00b, so bear with me.
I am able to learn the codes but can't make them out in IR.exe. I'm using the latest decode.dll. All the learned code show up as
GAP-###-###-##?
edit: RS manual included a bunch of possible device code for Konka but none of them works: 0628,0632,0638,0703,0707 |
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Capn Trips Expert
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: |
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A few possibilities to consider:
(1) Do the learned functions WORK?
(2) Fresh batteries in both OEM and 2117?
(3) Proper learning technique?
As you have a learning remote, AND you have the original remote, AND you have learned some (all?) the signals, your best bet is to upload the learned file(s) to the diagnosis area and post links to them here.
One of the smarter guys than me (and that's quite a few!) will see why it's not decoding and if it's truly a new protocol, will crack the code for you.
Try to describe what each learned signal is in the uploaded files if it's not obvious from (the same as) the key to which it is learned.
CT
P.S. I assume you just incorrectly answered question 9 "no" as the 2117 is MOST DEFINITELY a learning remote, and you indicate that you have used it to learn, but that your decodes are not useful. _________________ Beginners - Read this thread first
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underquark Expert
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 874 Location: UK |
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Did you look at this thread which suggests that Konka uses Aiwa or Aiwa2 protocol? While you're waiting for an expert reply you could try 0701. If that doesn't work then post your IR file with the learned codes as suggested. Also try hammering away at learning just one or two buttons even (try learning power to buttons 1,2,3; channel up to 4,5,6; number0 to 7,8,9 etc.) until you hopefully get one that is decoded successfully to give you the protocol, device number, subdevice number etc. need to build an upgrade. |
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lostdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's a learning remote, sorry.
And yes, all the learned function works. That's why I'm confused why the decode didn't work. I guess I should be satified now but from what I read and seen so far, making a new device take less room than using learned function. I would also like to make a upgrade file to upload here for other to use.
I have uploade my IR file here: https://home.comcast.net/~lostdude/Lostdude.IR
Tried 0701 didn't work either.
Thanks. |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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The decode didn't work because it is a protocol that I never added support for to DecodeIr. Probably it's a protocol I've never even seen before (but my memory isn't good enough to be cerain of that).
The lead-out part of the signal is unusual enough that this otherwise-simple protocol may be tricky to build an executor for. I also don't know how to check whether UEI already has an executor for it.
The "gap" decodes are totally wrong because that generic decoder has been fooled by the strange lead-out. The "Mitsubishi" decode of the badly learned Mute signal is also a wrong decode from that same cause. |
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lostdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all your help. I'm satified with what I got now.
FYI: Konka is supposely the 2nd or 3rd biggest TV maker in China. I suspect we will see a lot of them from now on. |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21279 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Lostdude,
Would you still like an upgrade for this TV? I'll probably be creating a new exec for the Konka protocol soon and I'll be looking for a tester. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help! |
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lostdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Wow,
That would be great. Just let me know what I can do to help. |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21279 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an upgrade formatted for your 15-2116. It includes all of the buttons that you learned, though I suspect that there are more buttons to be learned. I also added a few functions that I have for an Akai TV that uses the same protocol.
Upgrade Code 0 = 0F D0 (TV/2000) Konka TV (KM v8.35)
FF 18 7E FE 74 81 02 12 13 14 11 10 0B 0F 15 0E
0A 11 10 12 13 17 1C 0C 0D 1F 1B 1E
End
Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) Konka (PB v3.11)
43 8C 11 8B 12 85 44 08 08 00 FF 04 CF 00 FF 02
DB 07 D0 05 F9 05 C9 F6 01 46 1C 14 F6 01 4C C6
F8 28 0A F6 01 58 F6 01 0A 7B EC AF
End
Here's the KM file...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=2375
Here's the PB file...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=2376
To John Fine:
Here's the info for the Konka protocol for DecodeIR:
carrier = 38 khz
lead in = +3032 -3012
1 pair = +500 -2500
0 pair = +500 -1500
lead out1= +500 -4000
lead out2= +500 -23000 _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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lostdude
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: w00t! |
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Rob,
It worked prefectly! Even the power button which I wasn't able to use the learn function on.
Thanks much! |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21279 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Glad to hear it. If there are any buttons on the original remote that aren't covered by the upgrade, please learn them and post your file, then I'll add them to the upgrade. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: |
To John Fine:
Here's the info for the Konka protocol for DecodeIR:
carrier = 38 khz
lead in = +3032 -3012
1 pair = +500 -2500
0 pair = +500 -1500
lead out1= +500 -4000
lead out2= +500 -23000 |
I finally got around to adding that to DecodeIr.dll
I'm planning a few more changes today before uploading.
The info you wrote above, plus several extra details that I had to find elsewhere can all be written in IRP notation as:
{38k,500,msb}<1,-3|1,-5>(6,-6,D:8,F:8,1,-8,1,-46)+
Beyond that IRP string, the only info I needed in order to add DecoderIR support was the fact that the executor (019B) is not "comp". |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21279 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I just tried it myself and it looks good. This is becoming quite a common protocol so thanks for adding it. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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