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chrisexv6
Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: Syntax Olevia 537H TV |
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Been in contact with UEI/OFA about a code for my Syntax Olevia 537H TV. Their response was that they didnt yet have a code for it, and they suggested 4 TV codes:
1144,1240,1331,1610
Im not quite a JP1 beginner Ive already upgraded my remote for all my devices, created devices for everything, etc (including the TV). Im hoping to try one of the other codes to see if there are any discretes that might be found. I noticed that the last 3 of those codes arent even listed in the devices-dev.xls spreadsheet, so Im wondering if they really are fairly new.
Is there any way to get those official codes into my remote (9910) without doing it over the phone with OFA? Further complicating using them is the fact that I have digital phone service so Im guessing the upgrades wont work just held up to my phone (but I havent tried yet).
EDIT: nevermind they are sending them to me in a wav file. Will post back if they work (I noticed a few people looking for codes for the newer Syntax/Olevia TVs).
Thanks!
-Chris |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21239 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Once you've loaded the WAV file into your remote, could you post a copy of the resulting IR file so we can see what those codes look like. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help! |
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chrisexv6
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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No problem.
I assume Ill just do a File -> Save As to get the complete IR file? |
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chrisexv6
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | Once you've loaded the WAV file into your remote, could you post a copy of the resulting IR file so we can see what those codes look like. |
Did a mfg reset on the remote then added the wav file. The resulting IR file is here: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4071
BTW, code 1610 was able to control the TV. If anyone can take a look and decode what protocol/device/subdev that code uses, Id appreciate it!
-Chris |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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chrisexv6 wrote: | code 1610 was able to control the TV. If anyone can take a look and decode what protocol/device/subdev that code uses |
NEC1, device 4, subdevice 185
In all the files of IR data I've downloaded from many sources I don't have any other example of those signals. So the only help toward finding any missing ones is the OBC numbers from that upgrade.
I picked OBC, not EFC because there is a pattern to OBC numbers:
0 -- Power
1 -- 0
2 -- 1
3 -- 2
4 -- 3
5 -- 4
6 -- 5
7 -- 6
8 -- 7
9 -- 8
10 -- 9
16 -- Down
17 -- Left
18 -- Right
19 -- Select
20 -- CH+
21 -- CH-
22 -- VOL+
23 -- VOL-
24 -- Up
26 -- Mute
27 -- Prev
28 -- Menu
29 -- Info
32 -- Exit
34 -- Pause
38 -- TV/Vid
40 -- Guide
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chrisexv6
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks I just noticed that (learned the signal to one of my other remotes then got it in IR).
That jives with all of the learned codes from the original remote. So it seems like there is still a dead end for discretes and this TV.
Any idea if a different subdevice might yield better results? I tried all of the OBCs available for the NEC1/4/185 setup.
Thanks!
-Chris |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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chrisexv6 wrote: | Any idea if a different subdevice might yield better results? |
I would bet against it.
chrisexv6 wrote: | I tried all of the OBCs available for the NEC1/4/185 setup. |
Did you test or skip the OBCs matching the upgrade? And if you tested them did the results match? That is meaningful as a test of the testing process.
If you did it all correctly, I think you've demonstrated there are no discretes. |
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chrisexv6
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah since I already had the learned set from before, I just added in all of the OBCs that didnt exist (original remote seemed to use 0-42 with some missing in between, I added those missing plus 43-255).
No dice. I can re-do the experiment just to be sure, but I didnt see anything I was looking for (found a couple "toggles" that didnt exist on the factory remote, but nothing like discrete inputs, etc).
Funny thing is that there was a thread about these TVs from Nov/Dec, and it was determined that you can control discrete input selection via RS232 to the TV, but they didnt have any IR discretes. Go figure.
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21239 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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chrisexv6 wrote: | (found a couple "toggles" that didnt exist on the factory remote, but nothing like discrete inputs, etc). |
We consider any function that is found that isn't on the OEM remote to be a discovery, so well done on the ones that you did find.
If you build an upgrade for this, please include those additional functions. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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buggin
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Georgia |
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Whats the Olevia Remote that came with your TV?
Mine is RC-LTL for my 337H. Just looking for a match to recode my cable box remote.
Thanks! |
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incandenza
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 332H, and the remote says "RC-LTL" on it. I can confirm that the TV 1610 device listed above works on it.
The only button I had to use learning for was 'Aspect'. That one came up under NEC2/4/185 OBC 37/EFC 216 in IR. This is my first time using JP1, so I'm still figuring out how everything works.
You can also just change the aspect ratio from the menus, but it's a little more cumbersome. |
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johnsfine Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: |
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buggin wrote: | Mine is RC-LTL for my 337H. Just looking for a match to recode my cable box remote. |
Did you ever get the cable?
I think your other thread was clear enough, but if not:
The official setup code 1610 is correct for the RC-LTL, but it is not built-in on any model I know of. If you had a wav upgradeable model you could get that official upgrade over the phone. If you had a mail-in upgradeable model you could get that official upgrade by mail-in.
Lacking both of those, you need the cable, and with the cable you can use the JP1 upgrade file mentioned in your other thread. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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buggin
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Georgia |
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, wasn't trying to hi-jack another thread. I just saw that this guy's TV was newer and essentially the same as mine (except his has a tuner).
No cable yet. As I didn't realize the company I ordered it from is in Canada, it may take a while. For some reason mail from there takes an exceptionally long time. I think it still comes by railroad or pony...
I'm sure I'll still need to by a different remote as the is no RDF for this Cox Cable 7820 remote. I'll see when I get the cable... Thanks! |
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Evan_s
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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johnsfine wrote: | chrisexv6 wrote: | code 1610 was able to control the TV. If anyone can take a look and decode what protocol/device/subdev that code uses |
NEC1, device 4, subdevice 185
In all the files of IR data I've downloaded from many sources I don't have any other example of those signals. So the only help toward finding any missing ones is the OBC numbers from that upgrade.
I picked OBC, not EFC because there is a pattern to OBC numbers:
0 -- Power
1 -- 0
2 -- 1
3 -- 2
4 -- 3
5 -- 4
6 -- 5
7 -- 6
8 -- 7
9 -- 8
10 -- 9
16 -- Down
17 -- Left
18 -- Right
19 -- Select
20 -- CH+
21 -- CH-
22 -- VOL+
23 -- VOL-
24 -- Up
26 -- Mute
27 -- Prev
28 -- Menu
29 -- Info
32 -- Exit
34 -- Pause
38 -- TV/Vid
40 -- Guide |
I got slightly different results Building one learning it from my remote using OBC also.
0 -- Power
1 -- 0
2 -- 1
3 -- 2
4 -- 3
5 -- 4
6 -- 5
7 -- 6
8 -- 7
9 -- 8
10 -- 9
15 -- "-" key on remote for entering HD subchanels
16 -- Up Arrow
17 -- Down
18 -- Left
19 -- Right
20 -- CH+
21 -- CH-
22 -- VOL+
23 -- VOL-
24 -- Last (previous channel)
25 -- Autio (Switched Stereo/Mono/SAP)
26 -- Mute
27 -- Menu
28 -- Enter
29 -- Input toggle (labeled Source on remote)
31 -- Fav/Scan (Favorite Button on remote)
32 -- Info
35 -- Lighting (sets backlight level)
36 -- Auto (automatically Centers screen on VGA)
37 -- Display
38 -- PiP Swap
39 -- PiP on/off (labeled View on original remote)
40 -- Sleep
41 -- PiP Freeze
42 -- Closed Caption
43 -- Date/Time Window (no button on original remote as far as I can tell assume it can be accessed via the menus but haven't actually looked)
I'm still looking for other undocumented codes.
I uploaded my RM file to
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4433
Looks very similar to the http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3919 which I expected but I've got a few more things filled in from my remote |
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