JP1 Remotes

boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

Just got the JP1 6131 from Rob (thanks, Rob, great service!) and I've got all my devices loaded except my Panasonic home theater. It's a combination 5.1 surround sound tuner, 5-disc DVD and VCR. I've searched all the suggested spots, plus general Googleing, and can't find an upgrade for it or any documentation of its codes.

I've managed to get most of the VCR controls to work by selecting VCR/1262. The closest I got to the DVD is DVD/0490. That works most of the menu and play buttons, although not the power button or disc selection. Some of the other Panasonic DVD codes I tried operate power, but not menus. I also tried the Panasonic-HT-Combo upgrade - it didn't seem to work at all for this unit.

My biggest need is for device selection. The original remote has two device toggles. One activates the DVD or VCR, the other AM/FM radio. Each of these devices apparently has a different code set as there is a separate device selection button on the original remote for each device, and if the currently active device isn't selected, the remote is ignored. (I don't understand why they didn't combine the device toggles and the device selection buttons, and it doesn't make any more sense when looking at it than it does when just reading my description.)

I need codes to at least allow me to activate the DVD or VCR. We don't use the radio functions much.

1. Device: Panasonic HT-SC820V
2. Type of device: DVD/VCR/Home Theater Surround Sound
3. JP1 Remote model: URC-6131 Extended
4. JP1 user? Yes
5. Still have original remote? yes
6. Checked Yahoo file section? yes
7. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? yes

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Bruce

The Robman · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject:

The fact that VCR/1262 works tells us that the VCR portion of this combo uses the standard Panasonic VCR codes (as 1262 is very similar to 1162, 1062, etc). Same story for DVD/0490.

If you were to mention which DVD code worked the POWER function, that would give us another clue.

I expect that the sound controls all come from the 160 device code, but there are numerous possibilities as far as what sub-devices you will need to use, so some experimentation is called for there.
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The Robman · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:

I suspect that the upgrades for the HT700 and HT900 in the file section might be very close for what you need. Try them and see if the volume buttons work at least.

Here are some OBCs for sub-device code 0 that might be the ones you are looking for DVD and VCR:

146 TUNER
148 DVD/CD
154 AUX
156 TV
158 VCR1
159 VCR2
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boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

Thanks for the quick response. One of the DVD codes that did work for power (but no other buttons I tried) was 1362.

I looked at the HT700 / HT900 upgrades but didn't try them since the combo device seemed like a better choice. I'll give them a try later tonight when I get another chance (the wife gets annoyed for some reason when I interrupt her viewing to try another device).

This HT820V seems to be a unique setup. I actually bought a Harmony remote a few months ago, but returned it when none of the existing device definitions could correctly select the DVD or VCR player. If I could just find the code for that DVD/VCR toggle button I could take it from there.

Thanks again.

The Robman · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject:

I guess you're finding out the hard way why it's a very good idea to have a JP1 learning remote (like the URC-8811) in your collection. Assuming that you still have the original Panasonic remote, you could learn all the buttons using the 8811, then use IR.exe to decode the signals for you.

The 1362 code is actually a VCR code that uses the same protocol as VCR/1262 except that it has a few additional device codes. The POWER button in this code uses the same device codes (ie, 144.0) as the VCR controls under VCR/1262 and the same OBC as the POWER button under VCR/1262. Did you try the POWER button when you had VCR/1262 loaded?

If you'd like me to help you build an upgrade, here's what you need to do. Try every button under the following setup codes to see if any of them do anything, then list in this thread which buttons worked, and if a button does something slightly different than what it should, list what it does.

VCR/1262
VCR/1162 (the TV/VID, GUIDE and ARROW buttons are different to 1262)
DVD/0490

Also, try the following audio codes:
0303 (160.10)
0309 (160.4)
1308 (combo 160)
1309 (combo 160)
1518 (combo 160)

(note: the numbers in parens are to remind me what device codes each uses)
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boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

Before I ask you to spend that kind of time on my problem I'm going to try to brute-force discover that DVD/VCR toggle EFC. I'm fairly satisfied with the functionality I've got on the VCR, and the only critical buttons missing for the DVD player are the disc selection and the DVD/VCR toggle.

From what you've already told me I'm pretty sure that the OEM remote uses the VCR code for power regardless of which device is selected, so I can just KeyMove that to the DVD device power button.

It's clear already that I'm going to want a learning remote, as you suggested. I need another remote anyway for the systems in my other room (just standard TV/cable stuff so far). Which would you recommend?

Thanks again. It's really great to have this kind of help available. I'm sorry to see you're getting out of the remote sales business - I'm glad I came across you when I did.

The Robman · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject:

I'd recommend the URC-8811, it's by far the best bang for the buck that you're likely to find. I still have a few left at $16 each.
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boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

The order is on it's way via paypal. Thanks again.

The Robman · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:

Bruce, check out the spreadsheet that Wayne created for the HT810V, I'm guessing that it's very similar to your model.
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boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

Thanks, that does look like a good match. It has most of the same functions. The only difference I can see is that the 820 has a 5-disc DVD changer and the 810 has a single DVD slot.

Based on Wayne's spreadsheet, the functions I'm looking for are associated with the device 160, sub-device 0. I'll try a few of the Panasonic Audio device codes and see what kind of results I get.

The Robman · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject:

But the codes to select the 5 DVD discs will undoubtedly come from device 176
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boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

wbrells · Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 37

Bruce,

I gather that you were pointed to my spreadsheet giving the EFC's etc. for my HT810V system. That sheet is missing the number keys for the VCR mode, but I assume you noticed that error. For completeness, though, the EFC's for 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,100 are 117,121,119,123,116,120,118,122,245,249,208 (all device 144, sub-device 0).

I'm still working on my HT810V, and really think I'll need to install an extender in my Walmart 8810 remote to implement device-specific macros. (I guess that an extender provides other benefits which may prove useful later.)

Have you found any discrete codes for Power ON/Power OFF by any chance?

Best wishes,

Wayne

boyle_bruce · Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 10

wbrells · Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 37

Bruce,

I believe the DVD up & down arrows are shown as "CH ^" and "CH v" on my spreadsheet with the EFC values that you listed. One other missing function: VCR tray open/close/eject is EFC 185 (OBC = 1, Hex Cmd=7F).

I have mixed feelings about using an extender. I'd really miss the LEARNING feature, and resetting the remote to a non-extended state and then reinstalling the extender sounds like a pain. I may just try adding the device-specific macro protocol and see if that is sufficient for my needs...

Right now, I plan to set up the DVD-specific upgrade (which should be very similar to yours)!

Wayne