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krason



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Could i do any things with this remote? Reply with quote

I just want to reprogram it but look like it don't have a chip.
Is it possible to do any things with this remote? Thanks,


see picture:

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7338/remote1.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1189/remote2.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1461/remote3.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a JP1.1 interface so you should be able to program whatever you want to it if you get a JP1.1 compatible cable. It has a chip (round glob) but I don't know what remote it is.. I'm sure others here probably do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This remote doesn't have a 6-pin connector, so you would need to figure out how to add one (assuming that's even possible) before you can do any JP1 stuff with this remote.

As this remote is not designed to have a 6-pin, there's no guarantee that the firmware supports the JP1 upgrade process (but it might).

I can't tell from the pics whether this remote uses a flash chip or not. If it does, it might work with JP1 once you've figured out how to add a 6-pin. If it uses an old fashioned non-flash MCU chip, there's no chance of using JP1 with this remote.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
This remote doesn't have a 6-pin connector...
I think it actually does. The bottom row of pins is just hard to make out due to the angle of the shot. It's on the remote chart as JP1.2, and it's learning. Unless I'm mistaken, the RDF for the URC-39860 BO00 is already in the main RDF distribution. We could use krason's pic to make a RM map and image though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. The bottom row of pins is just hard to make out due to the angle of the shot.


The second picture enlarges. Its a HUGE picture. On my monitor the pins and labeling are almost 1/4" high.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... Some button names are different in the existing RDF, but most look the same. I changed the RDF to match the button names in the pic, and I made a map and image. HERE are the new/updated files. If this is a new variant, I'll need to rename the files so they don't conflict with the existing one. We'll see if it works when the OP gets a cable.

EDIT: Renamed new files.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm blind, I thought that was a capacitor or something when I looked at that shot. I guess I'm just used to the 6-pin being higher up on the PCB.

So, ignore everything I said about it needing a 6-pin, and as it has one pre-installed, it's definitely a JP1 compatible remote.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, every one to help me find out my remote.
Now i know my remote has a chip (round glob).That's
means i can reprogram my remote for control another
device.
And after i've got 10181018 (URC-39860 B00) Test RDF Map
from Mr. mdavej now i can communication with my remote
successful. I use jp1.2 cable. Before it can't that why i thought
my remote don't have a chip.
I want to use my remote(URC-39860 B00-02) to control
Dreambox DM 500-S and Denon AVR-2800.I still new don't
know much.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob,

So krason's has the same signature as the original but some buttons are labeled differently. Do we replace the existing RDF with the new one or rename the new one? If so, what should we call it? I also had a question about the button numbers on the board. They appear to be in octal and are 1 less than the hex button code, i.e., S20 + 1 = $11. Does that make sense? If so, then my RDF is correct.

krason,

Here are a Dreambox and a Denon upgrade you can try. Open them in RM, pick your remote from the drop-down, and copy/paste the output into IR.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much Mr. mdavej. You are very kindness.
I will try but it take time for me.I'm still learning how to do it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdavej wrote:
Rob, So krason's has the same signature as the original but some buttons are labeled differently. Do we replace the existing RDF with the new one or rename the new one? If so, what should we call it?

I think in cases like this we generally create a new RDF, that way we can not only use the new button names but we can also link it to a different remote image and map. The naming convention should be the same as for any other remote.

mdavej wrote:
I also had a question about the button numbers on the board. They appear to be in octal and are 1 less than the hex button code, i.e., S20 + 1 = $11. Does that make sense? If so, then my RDF is correct.

You are correct. To convert the printed octal numbers you have to first convert them to decimal and then add 1. Then you can either leave them in decimal or convert them back to hex in order to enter them in the RDF.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Rob.

krason,

What device did this remote come with? That will help me choose a better name for the RDF.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdavej,
Sorry! I have no idea. I've bought 10 of them at weekend market
in Bangkok Chinatown. It's a UEI Remote at battery cover say URC-
39860 B00-02 9RC60C-1018 tag#10&11/SIO 1555-1018.
I think they are reject product or over production from factory in Thailand.
Front cover don't say anything. Back cover only have UEI marked.
I've backup original ir file from it, if you want but i don't know how to post file here.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good enough. I've have renamed the files so they do not conflict with the existing one and posted the final version HERE. If you use the new one, delete the old version first.
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