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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21238 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Did you get a chance to try this out yet?
The Robman wrote: | Vicky's JP1 Lookup Tool shows 11 setup codes that are listed as being for Skyworth TVs. So, I have created an IR file that has mini upgrades for each of them, where the only button included is the POWER button. I have assigned the first 8 upgrades to the 8 device buttons, and I have programmed the remaining three as keymoves to the L1/2/3 buttons in AUX mode. I have also created 2 macros that test each of these buttons.
The file is here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=8808
You should load this file into your URC-8910 with your TV on, then try the M1 button to see if the TV turns off. If it doesn't, try M2. If either macro turns the TV off, it means that one of the upgrades is correct.
If the M1 macros does it, your next step is to try the POWER button in each device mode, expect for AUX.
If the M2 macro does it, put the remote in AUX mode, then test POWER, L1, L2 and L3 to see which one works.
Once you've narrowed it down, report back and we'll take it from there. |
_________________ Rob
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Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help! |
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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vickyg2003 wrote: | but once you try, how do you let go! :lol: |
You don't. That sometimes may be a problem (aren't you supposed to enjoy your honeymoon now, instead of hanging around in the tech forums? :-))).
But seriously - you are is very true. Possibly it's something to do with a never-ending hunger to learn.
OK, back to Earth:
Rob, I have tried your file.
Neither M1 nor M2 did turn the TV off. Tried few times. The TV just does not "hear" them.
And yes - I was waiting long enough with the button pressed for the complete macro sequence to finish (I think there were seven transmissions in M1 and three or four in M2, right ?)
Don't shoot the messenger.
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Added: only saw your last post Rob after having already posted mine. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Rob.
I'll post the report here after I have tried all these upgrades. |
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Tried all 23 upgrades, Rob. No luck.
Don't feel bad about giving up right here... :-))) |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21238 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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I think you've exhausted the JP1 and UEI knowledge on this brand now.
Remind me, did you try the conventional remote search for this, i.e. using the 991 command? _________________ Rob
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I did, after having had an embarrasing (on my side) conversation with Vicky on Page1 of this thread. :)
t'was to no avail.
Oh well... after all, knowing how to give up may also be useful in this life... :-) |
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underquark Expert
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 874 Location: UK |
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Based on guess-work and finding this posting about Akai TVs declaring themselves as Skyworths, is it worth trying all the Akai upgrades including the Akai multiple upgrade in the File Section? |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Oh well... after all, knowing how to give up may also be useful in this life...
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I don't know how to let go, could you teach me.
I'd still recommend trying anybody's newer remotes to do a search, especially cable remotes that have rather large TV libraries.
The older remotes that you are using don't have nearly as large a library as the current remotes. Grab any universal remotes handy and run their code search. If you find the code, you've got all the tools necessary to convert it into an upgrade. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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underquark, thanks. I guess, it doesn't cost me anything to try - I will report the results here once I've done that.
vickyg2003 wrote: | Quote: | Oh well... after all, knowing how to give up may also be useful in this life... :-)
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I don't know how to let go, could you teach me. |
Vicky, this means to me that you are either one step ahead of me or behind, in your life experience... :-)))
Time will show...
Your point about the newer remote is taken. I will try the newer one. |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Try these trident/akai upgrades.
Try these two upgrades also, they need the protocol upgrade below. They are just the power keys.
Upgrade Code 0 = 02 05 (TV/0517) keymap-master Device Upgrade (KM v9.20)
3D 00 11 F8 FC BE
End
Upgrade Code 0 = 00 D9 (TV/0217) keymap-master Device Upgrade (KM v9.20)
3D 00 11 F0 FE 7C
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Upgrade Protocol 0 = 00 3D (S3C8+) pid: 00 3D (KM v9.20)
00 00 21 8B 14 85 E5 A0 10 05 07 00 06 00 1B 00
06 00 52 D6 95 00 06 00 BF E4 04 08 E4 03 06 8D
01 46
End _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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underquark, Vicky and Rob,
Finally some good news...
The upgrade Akai_TV05 from the pack suggested by underquark has a correct protocol (NEC1, 32). OBCs are completely wrong, but this is a minor detail.
So, I have not tried further upgrades from the pack (Akai_TV06 and onwards, or maybe I should? ) and concentrated on figuring out the correct OBCs instead.
Pretty much done them all now, except "OK" (there seems to be something inherently wrong between me and the "OK" OBCs in JP1 remote controls - they just don't like me! :-))) and "A12" (A12 is a selection button for audio part of Skyworth proprietary digital processing engine. I have found V12 - video part - selection OBC, but not A12, alas)
Hence the question: I have only tried the OBCs from 0 to 100 so far. (just plain ran out of time last night). What is the full range of OBC values for this protocol? Is it 0 to 127?
Any other suggestions are welcome, of course.
But even what I have now is already a win for sure. Let's see if we can improve it, but if not I'll upload the upgrade soon as it is.
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Oh, BTW, Vicky, your two upgrades ("Power" only) above didn't work. |
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underquark Expert
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 874 Location: UK |
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: |
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If I remember correctly, the NEC1 codes usually occupy 0 to 31, miss out 32 to 63, use 64 to 95 etc. although I don't believe that they have to do that. Here is a mapping of codes for my Topfield TF5800PVR (which also, co-incidently, uses NEC1, Dev 32). The digits on the left column are the "tens" of the hex value and the digits along the top the units, thus the OBC for OK is Hex 1F in my table or Dec 031 - for my device, of course.
Code: | Button Map (OBCs)
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
0 up down right left list exit pause ch+ tv/stb vol+ power archive mute green yellow blue
1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 menu guide vol- info recall ok
2
3
4 tv/radio opt rew play ch- fast fwd slow stop rec white red
5 pip text pip swap
6
7 Corrupt HDD Test B/W Test Red Test Green Test Blue Fact Reset
8 discrete off
9
A
B
C
D
E
F power
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: |
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digital_silence wrote: | underquark, Vicky and Rob,
The upgrade Akai_TV05 from the pack suggested by underquark has a correct protocol (NEC1, 32). OBCs are completely wrong, but this is a minor detail.
So, I have not tried further upgrades from the pack (Akai_TV06 and onwards, or maybe I should? ) and concentrated on figuring out the correct OBCs instead.
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
There were no more Nec1 32's in the zip pack, but the lookup tool suggested TV/2232 for Akai LCD TV's. TV 2232 uses NEC1 32, but totally different OBC's. (245 for Ok)
Do they line up with the EFC's for TV/2232?
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Hence the question: I have only tried the OBCs from 0 to 100 so far. (just plain ran out of time last night). What is the full range of OBC values for this protocol? Is it 0 to 127?
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IRP says F:8 so that means 256 values.
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Oh, BTW, Vicky, your two upgrades ("Power" only) above didn't work. |
It was just a guess. I read that your TV had the Trident processor, so I looked at the trident TV's and those two codes were used by trident and Akai, so I'm not surprised they didn't work. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 257
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I have tried all possible "OK" EFCs for all NEC1 protocols listed for even remotely possible devices from lookup tool (brands included Akai, JNC, Maqma, Technotrend, Time, Telefunken). That covered also Akai TV/2232 (BTW, Vicky, 245 is the EFC for OK from that set code, not OBC).
I have also tried all OBCs from 0 to 140 and 240 to 255 (just didn't have time to test ALL 256 OBCs).
I have not found OK button.
I am starting to think that the original remote doesn't have the OK button, as the selections can be made by other keys (left/right or numericals).
Anyway, I will try the rest of OBCs (141 to 239), and then post the upgrade here, whether I wil have "OK" found or not.
Or, btw, I haven't found A12 either. |
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