JP1 Remotes

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:03 pm Post subject:

So was it just the 4 color buttons that you were saying were different between UK and US, because we have color buttons here too, it's just that the users who created those files either chose to use the true function name, or their devices had buttons labeled like that, rather than just using colors. (And I know I should be writing it as colour, like I used to, but I'm American now, lol).
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The Robman · Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:54 am Post subject:

I do remember Teletext, and there is a Text button in my upgrade. Most satellite systems also use color buttons for various tasks. My preference is to always list those buttons using both their color and their function.
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Ant1375 · Joined: 12 Jun 2023 Posts: 18 Location: Uk

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The Robman · Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:59 am Post subject:

The first step should be to check our file section to see if we already have upgrades for any of your devices, as that will save you a lot of time. If our upgrades are missing any buttons, you can fix that by adding them.

The next step, for devices that we don't have, is to learn all the buttons from one of the remotes, then convert those learns into an upgrade, either using the automated button or doing it by hand, whichever way works the best. Then repeat for each of the remotes that you want to incorporate into your JP1 remote.

In each case, learn ALL of the buttons, not just the ones that you think you need, so that your upgrade file is complete. You don't have to assign all of the functions to buttons, only assign the ones that you need to use.

Then, if you want to take things to the next level, the next step is to find functions that your device supports that are not on the original remote. The upgrade files that Dave and I posted might help with this as they likely have functions included that your upgrade doesn't have. Test them, if they don't work, ignore them, if they do, add them to your upgrade (even if you don't need them).

Another thing that most of the experts here do with a new device is to test all of the "gap OBCs". When you look at the list of functions in your upgrade, if you sort them in OBC order, you will notice gaps. We like to test those gaps to see if they do anything, and if they do, we add them to our upgrades.

Once your upgrade file is complete, load a copy of it into our file section. Actually, you don't need to wait until it's perfect, you can load a first draft and then update it later. We often get people who say they'll load the file once it's perfect and, of course, they never do.
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Ant1375 · Joined: 12 Jun 2023 Posts: 18 Location: Uk

The Robman · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:04 am Post subject:

How would one larger upgrade work? If you assign this larger upgrade to a device button, which device would it control? Perhaps if you tell me what you're trying to do, rather than how you want to do it, I can better help.
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Ant1375 · Joined: 12 Jun 2023 Posts: 18 Location: Uk

Ant1375 · Joined: 12 Jun 2023 Posts: 18 Location: Uk

on the URC 3661 when learning remote functions soes it mater how long the button is held on the original remote?

The reason I ask is I noticed on the volume up and down buttons there seems to be a small issue. Allow me to explain , the TV shows volume level as a number for example 5 , so on the original remote if your press volume up 4 times the numbers go up as follows 5,6,7,8,9 and same if you press Volume down its goes does by 1 each time.

BUT
on the URC 3661 some times the Volume up skips a level so for example if Volume is on 5 and you press it 4 times it goes 5,7,8,11,13. It is not consistent so if I press the Volume up button firmly and not too quickly then it sometimes works as the original remote.

I was thinking as the remote is new it may just be the rocker buttons settling in and with a little use it be fix itself.

The Robman · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:17 am Post subject:

Generally speaking, these are the steps for capturing a good learn:
1. Line the 2 remotes up for learning
2. Put the JP1 remote into learning mode
3. Wait a moment then...
4. Press and hold the teaching remote button
5. When the JP1 remote indicates a successful learn, stop pressing the teaching remote button.

The reason for the brief delay in step 3 is to make sure you don't miss the beginning portion of the IR signal. In signals like NEC1, all of the important data is in the first half of the signal, everything after that just indicates that the signal is repeating, so by itself that repeating string is meaningless.

Also, it's important to let the JP1 remote capture the complete signal so that it can identify the repeating portion. If you let go of the teaching remote button too soon, it may capture the whole things as one signal, and if that one signal just happens to include (let's say) 4 repeats, then every press will send 4 repeats.

See if this Wiki page helps any...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php/The_Correct_Learning_Procedure

But regardless, for a JP1 user, learning should only be needed to capture the codes, which you can then use to add them to an upgrade or create keymoves. There should be no need to leave a learned signal in your final remote profile.

Let me ask you, do you only get this symptom with the learned signal, or do you also get it when you add the code to an upgrade?
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