JP1 Remotes

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

"a device combiner upgrade" ? This sounds like what I was trying to request. How is this done or where can I read about it?

I still don't think I quite understand how to implement a key move, but I will research it a little more based on your explanation. (If it is as simple as specifying a "from setup code" and a "to setup code" for each button move, I should be able to figure it out).

Fred

PS: I have noticed that the KM layout for the URC-8820 shows 10 different device assignments even though it is an 8 device remote. Are the other two device assignments accessible? If so, how?

johnsfine · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: KM Key moves

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

I tried to set up the two additional hidden devices on my URC-8820 (identified as dev1 and dev9) using macros. However, the macro function did not list dev1 or dev9 anywhere. Where can I find these devices listed?

Fred

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:14 am Post subject:

Do you have a URL for the RDF file you are using?

It obviously is not the same as the RDF file I'm using.

Your RDF file might need a small correction. Or maybe I just need to look at it in order to give you better instructions on using it.

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

If I possibly don't have the latest URC8820 files, where can I download them (or how can I identify the latest)? (Making sure I am starting with the same software seems like a better approach than trying to fix what I have already).

Fred

PS: I have yet another issue of confusion. I am confused by the volume punch through settings in IR. The On or Off setting of each device doesn't seem to correspond to whatever volume lock is set on the remote. Perhaps this also indicates I don't have the latest URC8820 files.

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject:

I don't know where the official rdf is. I just know where my copy is (one I edited myself). There are a number of unresolved (so far as I know) differences of opinion between experts on how the RDFs should best deal with the differences across models within the x820 family.

My copy
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3801
skips dealing with those cross model issues. It supports the 10820 and so it expects the user to just know which buttons are missing or different on the 8820.

You can easily use that rdf with an 8820 (I do). That will make use of the two extra devices even easier.

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

For this RDF, there are Cable, Aux1, and Aux2 versus the 8820 having Aux, dev1, and dev9. Which of the 3 new device buttons is the true 8820 Aux button (leaving the other two as the hidden ones)?

Fred

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

I compared the two RDF files and determined that Aux1 is the same as the original Aux. I did see a couple of discrepancies in the button assignments. Perhaps this is why I have experienced a few problems. (I didn't see any differences in the VPT assignments, however). I'll try your RDF tonight.

Thanks.

Fred

binky123 · Expert Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 1292

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

Yes; setting the volume lock on the remote and then uploading to IR shows seemingly random VPT flags. My son and I tried it with various combinations including clearing the volume lock, and none of them seemed to match the IR display.

Keep in mind that I haven't tried your URC8820.rdf yet.

Fred

PS: I am not certain if I am using IR version 7, but will check. Is the latest beta (is it beta 3) working well? Sorry that my original KM questions have progressed into IR questions; perhaps out of place for the forum layout.

fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

I was running IR7 beta2. I upgraded to IR7 beta3. To be safe, I downloaded the latest RDF file set and added your 8820/10820 RDF. I uploaded the current URC8820 memory from my remote. I then reloaded each device upgrade from KM9.06 (set for URC8820 as before; not to URC10820).

Everything looked fine except for the 4 key moves I created to combine my Lasko 3440 fan onto my X1 video projector device. (The EFC codes had to be reset).

Now everything seems to work like you described, including the VPT flags and the access to the two extra hidden devices through macros.

Thanks for all of your help.

Fred

PS: One thing I am still haven't figured out is how to add remote RDF files to KM for adding or upgrading the list of supported remotes. Fortunately, this was already done for me in KM9.06, but I would like to learn.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

KM doesn't utilise the rdf's, unlike RM. Therefore KM has to be updated every time a new remote definition is created (I don't know enough about Excel to have any idea precisely WHAT gets updated, but suffice it to say, it is not automatically extracted from the rdf), while RM does not, as it simply pulls the info it needs from the rdf directly.
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fpreston · Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 51

Ok. Now I don't feel quite so stupid. One post indicated the URC8820 RDF was added to KM, but that must require more knowledge and access to KM internals than are obvious to most of us.

Fred