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Device Combiner import working in RM?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:55 pm
by kwhumphreys
I get a 'Device Upgrade Load Error' when importing any upgrade file from the Device Combiner tab in RM (v1.41 or v1.44), including upgrades saved by RM.
The error log has a screenful of 'Translator.in() index=0 missing parameter value' messages.
What kind of file is Import supposed to read?

I'm trying to do what Robman did in this thread: https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=273
The simple upgrade is fine, but I can't figure out the Device Combiner.

Thanks

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:46 am
by gfb107
I'm sorry, but I can't tell exactly what you are trying to do. Please list the exact steps you are taking and I'll take a look.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:53 am
by kwhumphreys
RM 1.44
1. File -> New
2. Remote -> Replay 5000
3. Protocol -> Device Combiner
4. Device Combiner Tab
5. Import -> Panasonic HT-05fix.rmdu
Device Upgrade Load Error

Same result for ReplayTV-5000.txt or any other device upgrade file I've tried. What file types does Import support?

My goal is to use Device Combiner to create an upgrade that assigns volume/mute keys to the Panasonic HT-05 and Power to a 0156 setup code Toshiba TV. Device Combiner's Add function works fine, and since I'm only trying to assign 4 keys I should probably just enter everything manually, but I guess I'm not understanding what Import is supposed to do.

Thanks
Kevin

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:29 pm
by gfb107
First the good news: I've found the bug causing the "Device Upgrade Load Error". I've succesfully imported functions from ReplayTV-5000.txt. RM v1.45 will be available shortly.

Now the bad news: You can't import functions from Panasonic HT-05fix.rmdu because it uses the Panasonic Combo protocol, which has 2-byte commands. Device Combiner can only be used with protocols that have 1-byte commands.

However, you can probably build yourself a small upgrade (or two) that use the plain Panasonic protocol (it has 1-byte commands) that contain only the functions you want to import.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:53 pm
by johnsfine
Why do you want just 4 keys? Don't you want channel or menu etc. keys in the same device mode?

Maybe I'm missing some KeyMove restriction in the Replay 500, but I would expect mixing one key (TV/0156 power) with any number of keys from another setup code, is best done with a KeyMove rather than the device combiner.

But, if you really want Device combiner, Greg is correct that you can/should use the plain Panasonic protocol.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:57 pm
by The Robman
johnsfine wrote:Why do you want just 4 keys? Don't you want channel or menu etc. keys in the same device mode?

Maybe I'm missing some KeyMove restriction in the Replay 500, but I would expect mixing one key (TV/0156 power) with any number of keys from another setup code, is best done with a KeyMove rather than the device combiner.

But, if you really want Device combiner, Greg is correct that you can/should use the plain Panasonic protocol.
The R5k remote doesn't support keymover (without using the extender), so if you want to make the TV-POWER button control a different device than the VOLUME buttons, the DC is the only way to do it.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:55 pm
by kwhumphreys
Thanks everyone.
Good (for me :-) to hear it's a real a bug in Import and not just my misunderstanding.
Thanks for pointing out the Panasonic plain/combo difference.
I'm learning step-by-step here, so once I have the Device Combiner figured out, I'll try the Replay extender.

Kevin

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:58 pm
by The Robman
kwhumphreys wrote:once I have the Device Combiner figured out, I'll try the Replay extender.
If you're planning to use the extender anyway, you probably don't need the DC.