JP1 Remotes

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:29 pm**

I'm not sure how to convert this info from my new Gbox MX2 XBMC remote into something that can be used in my JP1 remote. Here is the raw remote data:

http://matricom.net/forums/#/discussion ... es-for-jp1

How do I convert that to a device rmdu file?

Thanks for your help!

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:33 pm**

What you are looking at is Pronto Hex Learns.

We have lots of tools that can convert these for you.

IR (you can add them as a learn, and they will decode for you)
IRScope (you can import them and they will decode and you can see what they look like)
IRMaster (you can decode and graph them)
IRTool(You can decode them)

Take your pick

Once you do that you can create an upgrade for these Nec1 device 1 signals with KM or RM.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:57 pm**

Thanks so much for your help. I'm using IR to add them as learned codes, which is working great.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:43 am**

Even if it may work, at least partially, this is not a good solution. Your learns are "dirty", leading to unreliable function. Most universal remotes can store only a small number (something like 10-30) learns, then its memory is full. Better to decode, and create a "device upgrade" out of these decodes. (See the wiki for the exact meaning or these terms.) Also, clicking and pasting a number of signals is errorprone and boring.

Instead, IrScrutinizer (which Vicky forgot) can import a whole bunch of signals, and decode them, with very few clicks. Here is now to do it:

1. In the linked forum article, mark all the relevant codes, starting with the first name ("LEFT"), ending with the last code (almost at the end, after "0-"), and copy to the clipboard. The intervening talk lines do not disturb.

2. Start IrScrutinizer, select to the Import ->Text->Raw. line-based pane.Click the "Load from clipboard" button. In the tree widget, there should now be a <clipboard> node. Open it by clicking on the symbol just to the left of if. It should like:

http://www.harctoolbox.org/storage/irsc ... rt-ccf.png

3. Press "Import all". There comes a popup stating that import was successful. Jump to the table panel by pressing "OK" on the popup.

4. It should now look like:
http://www.harctoolbox.org/storage/irsc ... metric.png.
We now see that most, but not all, signals decoded as NEC1, one as NEC, three as NEC2, three did not decode at all. Likely, these signals were incorrectly captured. For the purpose of this example, we change NEC and NEC2 to NEC1 manually (click in the cell and edit), and just delete the non-decoded signals (mark that signal with a single click, right-click, and select "Delete selected").

5. Select the "Export" pane, and the "RMFunctions" as export format. Press "Export parametric remote" (alternativelly, "Export" with the Scrutinize remote->Parametric Remote selected). This exports the signals to a tab separated text file, that can be read by e.g. Excel.

We should now import this file into RemoteMaster. There are some steps for this:

6. Open the export file with a program of your choice. Just selecting Actions->Open last export file in IrScrutinizer may suffice.

7. Open Remotemaster. Since we are making a NEC1 based update, select Protocol NEC1. Select the "Functions" pane and (optionally) delete the cruft already there.

8. We see that the RemoteMaster table needs OBC (=F in IrScrutinizer) as column #4. Therefore, in the spreadsheet, introduce a new, empty, column after the names column. Mark and copy the interesting area from first name (LEFT) to last F/OBC.

9. Mark the name column in the first line of the Functions table in RemoteMaster. Press Paste in the right-mouse-button popup menu.

RemoteMaster should now look like
http://www.harctoolbox.org/storage/remo ... ported.png
(here, I did not clean the initial cruft.)

10. Continue designing the device update in RemoteMaster as described in the Wiki and in its manual.

I hope to be able to extend Remotemaster to import from IrScrutinizer directly later this year, thus eliminating step 6-9.

Posted: **Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:39 pm**

Nice! Thanks for the hard work and the tutorial. Looking forward to RM integration too.

Posted: **Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:32 am**

A lot depends on the "RMFunctions" export format, which I haven't seen, so maybe I'm wrong here.

It might be slightly easier to just reorder the columns (by dragging the column headers) on the functions tab in RM to match the exported data and then just paste without modifying the exported data.

Maybe an additional step could be saved if IrScrutinizer could export directly to the system clipboard rather than having to go through a file.

Also I would point out that "to delete the cruft already there" just click the "Clean up" button, either before or after the paste.

Barf wrote:We should now import this file into RemoteMaster. There are some steps for this:

6. Open the export file with a program of your choice. Just selecting Actions->Open last export file in IrScrutinizer may suffice.

7. Open Remotemaster. Since we are making a NEC1 based update, select Protocol NEC1. Select the "Functions" pane and (optionally) delete the cruft already there.

8. We see that the RemoteMaster table needs OBC (=F in IrScrutinizer) as column #4. Therefore, in the spreadsheet, introduce a new, empty, column after the names column. Mark and copy the interesting area from first name (LEFT) to last F/OBC.

9. Mark the name column in the first line of the Functions table in RemoteMaster. Press Paste in the right-mouse-button popup menu.

I hope to be able to extend Remotemaster to import from IrScrutinizer directly later this year, thus eliminating step 6-9.

Posted: **Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:22 am**

A lot depends on the "RMFunctions" export format, which I haven't seen, so maybe I'm wrong here.

The RMFunctions format is really nothing advanced. It came out of
a discussion with Vicky , more as an example on how simple it is to define new export formats than an atttempt to create something useful. It is definined in file exportformats.xml, close to the end:

Code: Select all

<exportformat name="RMFunctions" extension="tsv" multiSignal="true" simpleSequence="false">
    <xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" version="1.0">
        <xsl:output method="text" />

        <xsl:template match="/">
            <xsl:apply-templates select="remotes/remote/commandSet/command"/>
        </xsl:template>

        <xsl:template match="command">
            <xsl:value-of select="@name"/>
            <xsl:text>	</xsl:text> <!-- EFC -->
            <xsl:text>	</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="parameters/parameter[@name='F']/@value"/>
            <xsl:text>	</xsl:text> <!-- Hex -->
            <xsl:text>	</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="@comment"/>
            <xsl:text>
</xsl:text>
        </xsl:template>

    </xsl:stylesheet>
</exportformat>

This is an XSLT-script for generating the export of an in-memory XML-DOM. To get F/OBC in column #4 instead of column #3, just add a TAB to a suitable <xsl:text> content. Or define a new export format of your liking.

It might be slightly easier to just reorder the columns (by dragging the column headers) on the functions tab in RM to match the exported data and then just paste without modifying the exported data.

Yes. Thanx.

Maybe an additional step could be saved if IrScrutinizer could export directly to the system clipboard rather than having to go through a file.

Good idea. It should probably not be called "export" but "copy to clipbard" from the tables. Let's see....

Also I would point out that "to delete the cruft already there" just click the "Clean up" button, either before or after the paste.

I was looking for something like that, but did not find it. sorry.

Thanx a bunch for your comments.

@mdavej: Thanx for those kind words!

I plan to try to teach RM to import the Girr-export of IrScrutinizer for creating a device update, if possible. But that is at least two months in the future.

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