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I recently got terrific help with an RM problem (*.rmdu files not saved). Switching back and forth between RM and Windows 7 Explorer to see if and when my *.rmdu files were saved, I discovered that Explorer did not show my newer *.ir files, and older *.ir files were listed with stale dates. Worried that I had lost work, I went into IR and (lo and behold) when I clicked on Files/Open everything was there in the correct directory and completely up to date.

I thought maybe these were hidden files, but I checked Explorer and it is set to show hidden files. As I said, I don't seem to have a problem, but I'm certainly confused as to why Explorer doesn't show the same files as IR.

Anybody know what's going on here?

Thanks!

It sounds like you are trying to save data in the "Program Files" folder. Windows 7 uses "hidden stores" in these areas. The data changes are not in that directory, but in some other hidden folder in the Users area.

Change the save location to a folder that you have rights to.

vickyg2003,

Thanks for your response. I've been comparing IR on my Windows 7 machine with IR on my old Windows XP machine. Both machines have version 8.03. The XP Export Output Path is C:\Program Files\JP1\IR803 while the W7 path is C:\Program Files (x86)\JP1\IR803. Using my W7 PC, when I select File/Open in IR, the box shows all my .ir files (including the new ones) exactly where they should be ... in C:\Program Files (x86)\JP1\IR803. When I look at the same directory in Windows Explorer, none of the new files are there. I checked to make sure I could see any hidden files, and they were definitely displayed.

Looking at the IR803 Properties using Windows 7 Explorer, the number of files listed is the same as what I see. So, I searched the entire computer (not just C:\) for .ir files using Windows Explorer. Search found all of the old IR803 .ir files but none of the new ones.

For some reason I can't fathom, my new .ir files exist for IR programming purposes, but they don't exist otherwise as far as Windows 7 is concerned. I'm wondering if this is unique to IR or if this is a Windows 7 "feature" that is more widespread.

Jim978 wrote: For some reason I can't fathom, my new .ir files exist for IR programming purposes, but they don't exist otherwise as far as Windows 7 is concerned. I'm wondering if this is unique to IR or if this is a Windows 7 "feature" that is more widespread.

Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft has enforced the ban on programs storing information in the "Program Files " folder. Windows has a convoluted method of handling these data files. It stores the in a deeply hidden secondary folder. Consequently they don't show up in Windows Explorer but the program that wrote them sees the newer copy. I think they are called "VirtualStores". If you google Virtual Stores you should find a clearer explanation. But as I said, the problem lies in your trying to store these in the "program files" folder

Thanks once again. I'm a bit slow, but I think I get it now. The only thing that still puzzles me is the fact that my .rmdu files also reside in a sub-sub-folder under Program Files, and those aren't lurking in some secret place like the .ir files (thanks, Bill Gates!).

Generally speaking, you should store all of your documents (include IR, RMDU, etc files) in a folder under the "My Documents" folder. Personally, I store my JP1 programs in a folder under "My Documents" too, I don't put them in the "Program Files" folder.