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Need help with toadtog

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:50 pm
by JohnParks
How would I program these two situations:

1. TV input screen - Antenna, S-Video 1(pvr), Component 2(cable box), Dvi(DVD player)

2.Cable box settings screen - Closed Caption - > Off/On/Mute <

I'm using a RemoteURC-6131
DeviceTV / 0702-necx2
DeviceCable / 1477-panasonic (old)
DevicePVR / 1614-replayTV-advanced
DeviceDVD / 0333-Nec1

I'm thinking toadtog, but what would be the best method and how: prodocol device-multiplexer, extender, a macro, or something else?

Re: Need help with toadtog

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:31 pm
by johann83
JohnParks wrote:1. TV input screen - Antenna, S-Video 1(pvr), Component 2(cable box), Dvi(DVD player)
Your options here, in order of (my) preference.

1. Discrete input selects, but I assume you've already searched for these.

2. Does your TV automatically go to a know state when you press Channel +/-? For example, my TV always goes to the Video 1 input when you change channels. So I can use a macro which does Ch+;Ch-; followed by an appropriate number of input toggles to get where I need to.

3. ToadTog, but if that's really four states without any means of getting to a "known" state, you'd need nested ToadTogs using 2 bits. I previously had used a nested ToadTog for something and it was quite difficult to get working correctly and/or consistently. I ended up coming up with another method due to the reliability issue.
JohnParks wrote:2.Cable box settings screen - Closed Caption - > Off/On/Mute <
Assuming that you only want to use the On and Off states, you could probably create a macro that makes use of a ToadTog bit to remember the state. I'm not sure how many keystrokes it takes to change this, but with an un-extended remote the macro may end up taking relatively long. In that case, it can get irritating because you need to keep the remote pointed at the device the whole time or you'll get into some funky unknown state with the ToadTog bit.

None of these are "ideal" solutions, but when all else fails, they will work.

Matt

Re: Need help with toadtog

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:19 pm
by JohnParks
johann83 wrote: 2. Does your TV automatically go to a know state when you press Channel +/-? For example, my TV always goes to the Video 1 input when you change channels. So I can use a macro which does Ch+;Ch-; followed by an appropriate number of input toggles to get where I need to.
The channel +/- has no effect. I have tried other key combos, but without success. I have searched AVS and several other forums... no luck. I was one of the lucky few who bought this tv (samsung hln-507) just before it was upgraded with descrete input and on/off codes.
johann83 wrote: 3. ToadTog, but if that's really four states without any means of getting to a "known" state, you'd need nested ToadTogs using 2 bits. I previously had used a nested ToadTog for something and it was quite difficult to get working correctly and/or consistently. I ended up coming up with another method due to the reliability issue.
I have noted this on posts about other extenders. I haven't been able to find any mention of toadtog reliability with 3 or more states concerning the 6131 extender.

Thanks Matt for your comments. If I can't get this resolved I may have to see if an upgrade to the tv is possible.