JP1 Remotes

es114 wrote:I'm looking for the real "play" button as play works as the "0" button on my remote now works the play function.

On the Buttons sheet, assign the function that is currently on "0" to the "play" button and delete it from "0". Recopy the upgrade code over to IR and give it a try. That's the beauty of JP1 and KM, and what it's all about! If you don't like how buttons are mapped, you can change them yourself in the upgrade.

Also, remember that when you use someone else's file, especially if it's for a different remote, the button assignments may not be optimal for what you want, so you should ALWAYS check the Buttons sheet and make any changes before copying the code over to IR.

OK, now that I've got my Sony CD changer programmed, does nayone know where I can get the codes for my Marantz SR92? The pre-programs in the JP1 files section don't seem to match.

Thanks,

Eric

es114 wrote:codes for my Marantz SR92

Do you have the OEM remote that you can learn from and check to see how IR decodes the signals?

Mark,

I do have the OEM remote but I can't get the 15-1994 to learn vol down. I did get it to learn vol up. The 15-1994 learns some but not others.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Eric

I don't know what the problem with vol down might be (user error, full learning memory, something physically wrong with one of the buttons, batteries, etc.) I really don't think it is something about the signal itself.

Post the decode information for the vol up signal and I probably can find the matching vol down signal in one of the many CCF files I've downloaded (my automated search methods make that type of search trivial).

Very strange. Did some testing. Vol up works with device code 0039 but not vol down. Vol down works with device code 0270 but not vol up.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Eric

es114 wrote:Very strange. Did some testing. Vol up works with device code 0039 but not vol down. Vol down works with device code 0270 but not vol up.

Are we still talking about a 15-1994 and a Marantz SR92 ?
The SR92 is a receiver, right?

What are 0039 and 0270? They seem to be setup code numbers (not device code) but not any ones I can identify. The Marantz upgrades I looked at were setup code 0720. Was 0270 a typo for one of those? If you got partial success from a specific upgrade file, tell us which upgrade file (not what setup code number was chosen by that upgrade file).

All the CCF files I have for Marantz receivers use confusing mixes of device numbers (not setup code numbers) 15, 16 and 17 with mixes of protocols RC5 and RC5x.

Yes, we are talking about a RS 15-1994and a Marantz SR92. The set up codes are 0039 and 0270, no typos. the vol down code that works in 0270 is 207. The vol up code that works in 0039 is 251. I have not had any success with the mapping from any of the files in JP1, just experimenting. It seems the SR92 is closer to the 0039 setup than any other, but it isn't following any pattern I can use.

Thanks,

Eric

I don't think the 15-1994 has any built in setup code 0270. It has three setup codes 0039, but none of them make sense in this context.

Can you upload a saved image (from IR.EXE) to the diagnosis folder to show us what you actually used when testing those setup codes.

EFC 207 in an RC5 setup code is OBC 17 and that is the typical OBC for Vol down in devices using the RC5 protocol, including Marantz receivers. Vol up is OBC 16, which is EFC 175.

I'm not sure what EFC 251 might be. I think in an RC5 setup code it might alternate between OBC 54 and OBC 62 and it would use device 24 regardless of what device was defined for the setup code. But there is enough unsound analysis in there that I might (when I have a 15-1994 handy) try it for my self and see what it generates. Anyway, I don't even know if 0270 is supposed to be an RC5 setup code.

AUD_0039/EFC 251 is Panasonic (old):9:36.

Devices4.xls does show AUD_0039 as a Marantz setup code and EFC 251 IS vol+

I just tried AUD_0270 on my 1994 and it doesn't respond to that setup code. In fact I don't see any XXX_0270 setup codes for the 1994.

Does any other key in AUD_0039 do anything?

Also, if it hasn't been suggested already put new batteries in the OEM remote and the 1994.

I really have nothing to upload. I have learned the standby code and certain keys on the 15-1994 to address CD, VCR2 etc and created a macro but very few codes become "learned" by the 15-1994 after repeated trying.

Thanks,

eric

In addition if you copy the Marantz 66 setup from the JP1 files listing you will see it uses a 0270 setup code. When I upload that program to the 1994 only the vol- works and nothing else.

Eric

There are many reasons an upload of your IR image might have helped us even though you can't see why it would.

For example, we might (I expect we would) see that you were testing the device upgrade while you still had learned signals present, so:

That upgrade using setup code 0270 has the standard vol- signal, which works because you failed to learn the vol- signal.

That same upgrade has the standard vol+ signal and you learned the standard vol+ signal, but you can't use a learned signal in a device mode with protocol upgrade so it doesn't work.

When you tried 0039, which is entirely wrong for your device, your learned signal for vol+ overrode the setup code and worked (because 0039 doesn't use a protocol upgrade).

es114 wrote: It seems the SR92 is closer to the 0039 setup than any other,

If my earlier guess was right, the above quote would mean you have a bunch of learned signals.

1) Save a file from IR.EXE with those learned signals. You may need that info later. I also think you should upload that to the diagnosis folder. If you don't want to do that you can email the file to me instead.

2) In IR.EXE delete all the learned signals before further testing (and of course when you save again from IR.EXE use "save as" to save to a different file name than used in 1).

3) Test setup code 0269. It has the vol- and vol+ that I've deduced are right for your device. Maybe more of it are right.

4) Try other Marantz upgrades from that Yahoo devices folder if you like, but forget that SR-66 one. It doesn't look like it would be a decent strarting point for anything.

EDIT: I didn't see John's post when I answered. Try his suggestions first and if that still doesn't work try what I have suggested below. Also AUD_0269 is the correct code not the one I suggested earlier:

The device upgrade (AUD_0207) above only has five commands in it and it uses the device combiner and was done for a 15-1995. The Volume down command is RC5:16:17. I assume that you changed the remote type to the 1994, right?

I found pronto hex for an SR 45, SR 66 and SR 72 at IR library at Premise Systems and they all use RC5, so I think AUD_0039 is probably a red herring and perhaps it is a fluke or Marantz receivers were made backwards compatible to an older command set for some commands.

IMO, there is no reason that the Marantz RC5 commands can't be learned by the 1994. So here are some reasons. You have used up your learning memory. The batteries are bad on the OEM remote or the 1994. Both may appear to work but when you start doing a bunch of learning they quit working correctly.

So lets take out as many variables as possible.

1. Save your existing configuration in IR
2. Replace both sets of batteries in the OEM remotre and the 1994
3. Do a 981 reset (hold down the P key untill you get 2 flases. Then key in 9-8-1 and you will get four flashes.
4. Asign setup code Audio_0269. The power key may NOT work (so turn it on manually) but the vol+/- mute and the inputs on the number keys will probably work.

Learn any missing keys to the 1994. If anything still doesn't seem to work correctly save the file and upload to the diagnosis area at the JP1 Yahoo group. Then post here and tell us that it is there.