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Onkyo TX-DS494 and RC-443S codes

 
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Onkyo TX-DS494 and RC-443S codes Reply with quote

Hello, Smile
Could some one know what are the IR exchange between this receiver and his RC ? I am trying to make one RC for all my HIFI devices.
Bye for now Sad
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: URC-8550 as RC-443S to drive Onkyo-Tx-DS494 Reply with quote

Hello,
I found main functions. Here they are. They work well. But I would like to have all the transmitted codes from the RC.
This is RM file saving, I am not very skillfull with KM.

Description=onkyo_tx_ds494
Remote.name=URC-8550 Topline
Remote.signature=ET80ET80
DeviceType=Tuner
DeviceIndex=5
SetupCode=1135
Protocol=00 B6
Protocol.name=NEC1 Combo
ProtocolParms=210
FixedData=B4
Notes=
Function.0.name=DVD
Function.0.hex=C9 CE
Function.0.notes=DVD 060-108
Function.1.name=FM
Function.1.hex=49 9D
Function.1.notes=FM 166-109
Function.2.name=AM
Function.2.hex=49 1D
Function.2.notes=AM 170-109
Function.3.name=PHONO
Function.3.hex=49 AF
Function.3.notes=PHONO 055-109
Function.4.name=VIDEO1
Function.4.hex=49 0F
Function.4.notes=V1 058-109
Function.5.name=VIDEO2
Function.5.hex=49 8F
Function.5.notes=V2 054-109
Function.6.name=DIMMER
Function.6.hex=49 56
Function.6.notes=DIMMER 128-109
Function.7.name=DISPLAY
Function.7.hex=C9 55
Function.7.notes=Display 104-108
Function.8.name=8-Test
Function.8.hex=C9 A6
Function.8.notes=test
Function.9.name=DPL2 Change
Function.9.hex=C9 4D
Function.9.notes=DPL2 Change 040-108
Function.10.name=vol up
Function.10.hex=49 BF
Function.11.name=vol down
Function.11.hex=49 3F
Function.12.name=channel up
Function.12.hex=49 FF
Function.13.name=channel down
Function.13.hex=49 7F
Function.14.name=mute
Function.14.hex=49 5F
Function.15.name=channel +10
Function.15.hex=49 AD
Function.15.notes=Chan+10 039-109
Function.16.name=Speaker Down
Function.16.hex=C9 3D
Function.16.notes=Speaker Down 171-108
Function.17.name=Speaker Up
Function.17.hex=C9 BD
Function.17.notes=Speaker UP 167-108
Function.18.name=TEST
Function.18.hex=49 A6
Function.18.notes=Test 255-109
Function.19.name=F01
Function.19.hex=49 CD
Function.19.notes=
Function.20.name=F02
Function.20.hex=C9 CD
Function.20.notes=
Function.21.name=power
Function.21.hex=49 DF
Function.21.notes=Power 180-109
Button.13=DVD|null|null
Button.1c=FM|null|null
Button.14=AM|null|null
Button.c=PHONO|null|null
Button.1d=VIDEO1|null|null
Button.15=VIDEO2|null|null
Button.d=DIMMER|null|null
Button.1e=DISPLAY|null|null
Button.16=8-Test|null|null
Button.e=DPL2 Change|null|null
Button.6=vol up|null|null
Button.3=vol down|null|null
Button.2=mute|null|null
Button.4=channel up|null|null
Button.5=channel down|null|null
Button.7=power|null|null
Button.25=channel +10|null|null
Button.26=F02|null|null
Button.2a=TEST|null|null
Button.2e=Speaker Up|null|null
Button.2d=Speaker Down|null|null
Button.2c=DPL2 Change|null|null
Button.2b=F01|null|null
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Capn Trips
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a number of Onlyo receiver upgrades in the file section. Click on the File Section link near the top of this page, and look in the Device Upgrades>Audio section.

This upgrade in particular consolidates all of those functions in a single upgrade.
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Remotes: OFA XSight Touch, AR XSight Touch
TVs: LG 65" Smart LED TV; Samsung QN850BF Series - 8K UHD Neo QLED LCD TV
RCVR: Onkyo TX-SR875; Integra DTR 40.3
DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
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Amazon Firestick
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: I am just a beginner, it is so hard ! Reply with quote

Capn Trips,
I applied your gently advice, Smile , but i do not get forwad.
I am studying RM, KM, and IR for long time (2 weeks !) Surprised Really !
I do like electronic and programming.
I have an old URC-8550 and I built a parallel JP1 cable. It works fine.
Could you give some answers ?

- What are the main differences between RM and KM ? Is RM better ?
- Are codes using Amplitude Modulation different from Phase Modulation ones ?
- What are phantom buttons ?
- In RM what are the buttons named with asterisk ?
- What is Zone-2 ?
- Why does not the RC lite for some just programmed functions ?
- What is a SubDevice ?

Thank you so much ! Smile
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Evan_s



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: I am a beginner Reply with quote

kokalarobia wrote:
Capn Trips,
- What are the main differences between RM and KM ? Is RM better ?

Most of the time it's just a matter of preference and or which one is easier to run but there are some times when one supports something and the other doesn't. Km is the older of the 2 and from my understanding is harder to add support for new remotes because they have to be hard coded in. RM is newer and uses RDFs for remotes and uses nice image maps to assign functions if you want but ultimately the results of both should be the same.

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- Are codes using Amplitude Modulation different from Phase Modulation ones ?
- What are phantom buttons ?

Phantom buttons are buttons that exist logically in the remote but don't have any actual physical button on the remote. They can be very handy for putting macros or additional functions on that are accessed by something on the remote.
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- In RM what are the buttons named with asterisk ?

If memory servers buttons with asterisks will be generated as key moves because they aren't a basic part of the upgrade.
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- What is Zone-2 ?
- Why does not the RC lite for some just programmed functions ?
- What is a SubDevice ?

Thank you so much ! Smile


The sub device is part of a protocol that allows multiple different devices to use the same protocol with out confusing each other. Roughly the same thing as setting the ID switches for your garage door opener.
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Successfull Learning ? Reply with quote

Evan_S,
Thank you. Smile
Do you mind my re-asking those ones please.
- What is Zone-2 ?
- Why does not the RC lite for some just programmed functions ?
- What is a SubDevice ? ( I do not understand, It is so hard for me, my english is not so strong)

During learning operation, does the learning RC store
- the protocol,
- the device code,
- the EFC function code,
- and what else ?
and is it always successfull ?
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Evan_s



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Successfull Learning ? Reply with quote

kokalarobia wrote:
Evan_S,
Thank you. Smile
Do you mind my re-asking those ones please.
- What is Zone-2 ?

I know i skipped this the first time but I realized what you where asking about. Zone 2 on receivers is a situation where they can use some of their speakers (usually the back surround that make them a 7.1 amp) to play different content in another room. You'd run some long speaker cables to a different room and could use the zone 2 to listen to the radio or a CD player hooked up to the receiver.
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- Why does not the RC lite for some just programmed functions ?
- What is a SubDevice ? ( I do not understand, It is so hard for me, my english is not so strong)

I'll try this again. When a IR signal is sent it has some charactertics. The Device and sub-device code are just value's that make it specific to the device it's trying to control instead.

Think of the device as a phone number. Often times thats all you need to get to a particular person but sometimes you need more information. The sub-device is like an extension. Adds a little bit more information so a specific device can tell the commands are for it.
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During learning operation, does the learning RC store
- the protocol,
- the device code,
- the EFC function code,
- and what else ?
and is it always successfull ?


When you learn on a JP1 remote at least, I assume most other remotes are the same, they aren't decoding it like that they are just recording the signal exactly as is. Light is on for 10ms, off for 25, on for 25 etc. When you download from the remote IR automatically tries to decode the signal and present it in a way that means something to us but it's just a recording of the IR signal just like a tape records music and doesn't convert it to a score of the music.
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: About my device Reply with quote

1. Device: onkyo tx-ds494 for now
2. Type of device: tuner amplifier
3. Year: 2003 (?)
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: yes, not learning one
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes : //
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? Yes

Evan-S, Thank you Smile
I am searching for a complete RM code file. I wish I success.
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kokalarobia



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Factory Memory Master Reset ? Reply with quote

One more thing: as a beginner, 3 weeks ago, I thought it will be easy to restore factory parameters, so I made a wrong UpLoad, without having the remote memory backup on my PC. I would like to restore all factory codes.
I just read this on this forum:
" I connected the Pins 3 and 5 of the JP1-Connector to Reset, but nothing happens. I solved the Problem by Pressing the ON-Button during re-inserting the Batteries. "
Is it a true idea ? What is the ON-button on a remote ?
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