JP1 Remotes

IBNobody · Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 124

I love my JP1 Cinema 7 remote, but it's beginning to show its age. It just doesn't have enough hard buttons to cope with all the new DVR STBs. (I try to avoid shifting.)

The only JP1/JP1.x remotes that I liked for DVR STBs were the ones made by UEI's OEM arm, and the top-of-the-line remotes are hard to come by. (I won't settle for anything less than an Atlas OCAP 1056 backlit.) Why can't they make some consumer remotes styled similar to their OEMs?!?

So...

I'm starting to think I should abandon the JP1/JP1.x remotes and switch to something more expensive and mainstream.

Are there remotes in the $50-$200 range that have a bunch of hard buttons, can be programmed by a PC, and would generally give me the same functionality/quality that I've grown accustomed to from OFA/UEI products?

Help!

vickyg2003 · Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

I'm a big fan of the Cinema 7, and my DH won't use anything but the Cinema 7. I found that I needed shift and xshift to get enough functions and LKP's to make them manageable. Have you tried extender5?

Evan_s · Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 313

One option if you have an extender for your remote is to use LKP or DKP to get additional functions. I find this to be much simpler and easier to use makes more sense to me. I haven't actually had to use DKP yet but I'm using a fair number of LPKs now.

The backlit OCAPs seem to be a lot of peoples preferred option unfortunately they still seem to be extremely rare and hard to come by. I do agree that I generally find the OEM remotes for cable companies to be better suited for what people actually need now a days than most of the remotes One 4 All produces now a days.

My 6690 Hybrid kameleon is pretty much retired at this point with my 1025 atlas being my preferred remote until an extender is released for the backlit OCAP model.

IBNobody · Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 124

I haven't tried any of the newer extenders, but from what I saw in their readme, they won't solve my problem.

Aside from the fact that the 7800 doesn't have enough hard keys, I'm hitting my head against the Move Key limit. It's not like my 6012 with an 8k EEPROM, that's for sure.

If I can't get ahold of the OCAP, what non-JP remote would give me some of the same power that the JP's do?

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

Logitech Harmony meets your requirements and seems to be the top choice in the $150 and up range. That's probably what I'd get as a step up (or rather leap, dollar wise) from JP1. If you're still open to sticking with JP1 if only you had a few more transport buttons, consider the 8910. Even without extenders, it's enough for me and my DVR, without any shifts. I just had to put commercial skip somewhere, so I put it on the Sleep button. Does everything I need. My shifts are for big macros like power or source switching.

IBNobody · Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 124

I was worried that the 8910's/9910's were big and unwieldy. I have a 9800, and I thought it was too big and unwieldy.

But a Harmony is basically a high-dollar JP1 remote, huh? I'll have to look at that.

irs009 · Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 99

High Dollar, yes. JP1, No...Jack

Evan_s · Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 313

I'd check out http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8850 before you purchase a harmony remote. They are definitely the most popular computer programable remote and the activities is a pretty neat idea but I'm not sure if it will give you the programability you are looking for coming from JP1.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

If you can hold off for a few weeks, I will have a few OCAPs (the black - NOT backlit version) available. Unfortunately, I am homeless, moving from the UK back to the US right now, and they are all on a slow boat to Baltimore. Rolling Eyes

(...and unclemiltie is hard at work on an extender for the OCAP as we type Smile

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IBNobody · Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 124

Sure... I'll take one. Backlit or not, the extra buttons would be useful.

In the mean time, I'm getting a 1055 to hold me over.

speaker.guy · Exile Island Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 260

I don't think you really need an OCAP. It only has 2 more keys than the standard 1055 Atlas....Otherwise it is the same.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

I agree that it's only 2 additional buttons, but to me, those 2 extra buttons on the 1056 (especially the fourth "Color" button) REALLY make a big difference in usability and WAF. There's just no good place to put that 4th color button from my TV and CBL remotes on the 1055.

Obviously, each user decides what is important to him/her, but that's a pretty big one for me.
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RCVR: Onkyo TX-SR875; Integra DTR 40.3
DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
Laserdisc: Pioneer CLD-D704.
Amazon Firestick
tape deck: Pioneer CT 1380WR (double cassette deck)
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IBNobody · Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 124

unclemiltie · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject:

speaker.guy · Exile Island Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 260

It is 2 buttons. OCAP has separate "MENU' and 'SETTINGS' buttons.