JP1 Remotes

evanzoss · Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 3

Hi everyone, I got my first OFA remote (8820N) and I've been having fun putting on descrete on/off/input codes and making device button macros so that I can power on tv & amp, put them both on the right inputs, and power on the device all with one macro, all with discrete commands so there's no quirkiness with toggling.

So now what I need is for the power button to turn everything off, using
the discrete off codes, because the way it works is quirky to have it toggle
everything.

2 ways I've tried it, here are the problems I'm having, hoping someone with more experience can offer some ideas.

1st Making a simple macro for the power button for each device that sends all the discrete off commands.
Doesn't work because you can't create a normal macro for the power button on this remote, it has some goofy "Master Power Macro" thing.

The Master Power Macro goes when you hold down power for 2 seconds,
and it sends selected devices power commands. It's meant to toggle
everything on/off, but the way it works is quirky and sucks, I don't want
to use it like that.

2nd thing I tried then was to assign discrete off commands to each device's power button, then use the Master Power Macro.
This doesn't work because apparently if I have keymoved a discrete
power command onto the power button, holding it down no longer triggers
the master power macro.. so if I'm on any device with a modified power
button, then my master power macro can't even fire.

Hopefully that makes sense to someone and you have some ideas for me.
I can do this macro easily on another button, I would just really like to
have it on the power button.

btw, all this is so the relatives can understand quite simply:
Hold down DVD to watch a DVD, Hold down TV to watch TV, etc.. and
Hold down Power to turn it all off when you're done.

(trying to get them to remember to hold down +100 or something to
turn it all off just won't work)

I don't quite understand what JP1 offers beyond being able to add new
device codes that aren't on the remote.. would I be able to change the
behavior of the power button macro with it?

Thanks for the help yall.

evanzoss · Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 3

2 other thoughts:

1. Can you use 'key mover' to move macros from one key to another?

2. I think I can use 'learning' for the power buttons, so my fallback might be to get another learning remote, send the sequence of discrete off codes I want, and learn it back to each of my device power buttons.

think that would work?

thx again

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

Put your master power off macro on shift-power. Then power toggle still works normally for each device. To do this just press setup-power instead of power when you assign the macro button. To use it, just press setup-power. It's still on the power button so it's easy to remember that power toggles an individual device and shift-power turns off everything.

evanzoss · Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 3

cool, thanks. I didn't realize I could do that shifted key stuff with my remote, guess it's just an undocumented perk.

I'll give it a shot to play around, but I'm still not sure if the masses that use my AV equipment can handle set+power. Good tip though.

Thanks for the help.

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

I recommend that you try it. At our house shift power was remembered by everybody immediately. And they like the increased convenience of operation.

Here at my desk, I have shift keys on the keyboard. The handheld calculator turns off by <shift> On. For most people, the concept of a shift key will be familiar.

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:30 am Post subject:

I agree with 3fg, the shift concept is not that odd. The 8811 has a recessed shift key that is located in the bottom corner so that's a little awkward.

zaphod7501 · Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 533 Location: Peoria Illinois

You can use a macro to create a "shift" button on any button on the remote without an extender.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6692

You have to select one that is not used in any device code. (or you are willing to sacrifice and dedicate to "shift") It will not act like the original shift key in that it will not put the remote into setup mode by holding it down.
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