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Akai LCT 2662N

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:22 am
by rustic23
1. Device: Akai LCT 2662N TV
2. Type of device: TV
3. Year: May 2005
4. JP1 Remote model: URC 8811 and urc 8910
5. JP1 user? not yet
6. Still have original remote? no
7. Checked the file section? yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? no
9. Partially working setup code? no
10. Learning remote question?

I broke the remote! Have not been able to use TV sence as you have to turn on manually then select a channel change. I have an 8811 but am willing to purchase a 8910. I purchased another oneforall that said it would work with any TV. It did not! Could not get code search to work. Anyway I saw that the Logitech Harmony had a code for the 2662 but have not found the remote. All I need to do is turn the set on and off and control the volume. Everything else is done with the dish box. It is radio not IR and will not control the set. Any help appreciated.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:07 am
by johnsfine
I looked at a file from Rob (don't recall if/where posted) that lists a large set of info for Akai, including the LCT2662.

It lists the protocol as NEC1, device as 96 and power, v+ and v- are OBC numbers 7, 13, and 14. (All that info only helpful if you use JP1).

Another file from Rob tells me the setup code VCR/0042 in both of your remotes is that protocol and device number (of course code search wouldn't work because it is a VCR setup code not a TV setup code).

Yet another file tells me the '1' and '2' digits in that VCR code set are the V+ and V- commands in the (missing) TV code set. If those work, you could keymove them to the right buttons.

No key is premapped with the power signal, but it is EFC number 186, so it can also be keymoved.

So all this would be easier with JP1, but should be possible without.

Re: Akai LCT 2662N

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:23 am
by The Robman
rustic23 wrote:1. Device: Akai LCT 266N TV
... I saw that the Logitech Harmony had a code for the 2662 ...
Do you really have the LCT2662 (not LCT266N) ? If so, I have the code that you need, but you will need to use JP1 to load it into your remote.

The URC-8811 does have one code (VCR/0042) that will generate the right signal, but you would need to use EFCs to re-program the buttons (EFC list below).

If you want to experiment before you go to the effort of programming all those buttons, there's a list below of what some of the URC-8811 buttons should actually do when you use the VCR/0042 code.

If you would rather just buy a remote with the right code pre-loaded, I can load it into a URC-8910 for you.

URC-8811 --> Akai remote
8 --> 100 / (-/--)
9 --> source
FWD --> num 6
REW --> sound mode
STOP --> num 4
0 --> Q.View / sleep
1 --> vol up
2 --> vol down
3 --> SRS
PLAY --> auto / Ch erase / edit
channel down --> menu
channel up --> arrow down
4 --> arrow up
5 --> v-chip
6 --> arrow right
7 --> CH-

EFC list
181 last/prev ch
183 screen/picture size
187 mute
180 100 / (-/--)
184 source
182 num 0
186 power
053 num 5
057 num 6
055 sound mode
059 num 4
052 Q.View / sleep
056 vol up
054 vol down
058 SRS
117 num 2
121 num 3
119 display/info
123 Closed Caption
116 auto / Ch erase / edit
120 index / pic freeze
245 menu
245 select
249 arrow down
251 arrow left
244 arrow up
248 v-chip
246 arrow right
250 CH-
168 num 1
170 num 7
041 pip
043 num 8
042 num 9
105 CH+
103 MTS
107 favorite
107 picture

lct 2662N

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:03 pm
by rustic23
On the back of the TV the model number is written like this

LCT 2662
N

with the N under the last 2. I noticed that Logitech had two different codes one for a LCT 2662 and another for a LCT 2662N. I assumed the N under the last 2 made this a LCT 2662N. I don't have a clue what the difference would be. The TV was purchased at Sams about a year ago.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:18 pm
by johnsfine
I think Rob was asking more about your typo of 266 when you meant 2662, rather than the question of whether there is an N there.

If I understand the data from Rob correctly, the N version has only a subtle difference from the non N version.

To make sure we really are all talking about the same device here, you ought to try the VCR/0042 setup code and see if some functions (such as V+ or V-) work as Rob and I said they should.

Can you turn the TV on without a remote to do that test?

If not, do you know the basics of using EFC numbers so you can try EFC 186 (in VCR/0042) to turn the TV on?

Once you confirm that it is the right basic code set, you have your choice of:
1) Program as many functions as you like (or as your remote has memory for) without using JP1, as keymoves from VCR/0042.

2) Get a JP1 cable and program it right.

3) Buy another remote from Rob with it preloaded.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:34 pm
by rustic23
I turned on the set and put 0042 in the vcr button. Nothing seemed to work. I can get the tv on using buttons on the set, but I see no action.

Power no work
Voluem no work
Channel no work

In fact nothing seems to change.

Yes I am a rookie with JP1 and don't have a cable.... yet! I don't mind buying a remote, but as I now have four or five of them, I am not in a hurry to get something else that doesn't work. I edited my original post on 2662

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:57 pm
by The Robman
rustic23 wrote:I turned on the set and put 0042 in the vcr button. Nothing seemed to work. I can get the tv on using buttons on the set, but I see no action.

Power no work
Volume no work
Channel no work
Forgive me if I'm making a false assumption, but it sounds like you simply programmed the VCR/0042 code and expected the POWER button to control the TV's POWER function, which is not what we were saying. In fact, we didn't give you any instructions on how to test the POWER function yet.

With the TV already turned on, did you try pressing the '1' and '2' button on the remote, with VCR/0042 programmed? The '1' button should turn the volume up, and the '2' button should turn it down. If you confirm that that works, we will have confirmed that we have the right code for you. At that point, we can either help you to program the remote using the EFCs that I posted or I can program a remote for you.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:28 pm
by rustic23
I programed 0042 into the VCR. With the set on I press most of the buttons you gave me. Nothing happened. I then confirmed the code was in got four blinks on button 3 and two on button 4 so the vcr code was right. I then tried to transfer vcr button 1 to the V+ on the tv volume. I think it took, however, that did not work either.

I checked with oneforall and they don't have a code for this TV yet. They suggested the following codes

0351, 0702, 0745, 0812, 1385

However, they admitt that they might not work. I figured as a last resort I was going to go to Sams and see if they would let me use a remote and do the learning thing. As I said, I have two Sony learning remotes, one Philips/Maganavox, and one OneForAll. You would think something would work.

I really want to learn more about jp1 either cable or wav. Just seems like a neat thing to play with. I must have a dozen or so other remotes.

By the way, does anyone have a solution for the Dishnetwork second remote? It is a radio remote and you guessed it no Akai TV. Not sure there is any solution to this.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:03 pm
by The Robman
rustic23 wrote:I programed 0042 into the VCR. With the set on I press most of the buttons you gave me. Nothing happened. I then confirmed the code was in got four blinks on button 3 and two on button 4 so the vcr code was right. I then tried to transfer vcr button 1 to the V+ on the tv volume. I think it took, however, that did not work either..
It sounds like you have confirmed that this is the wrong code, which surprises me, but just to be 100% sure, can you re-confirm that the '1' and '2' buttons don't control the volume. There's no need to try to "keymove" the button first, just press the '1' button in VCR mode and see if the TV volume increases.

In the meantime, I will ask Akai if they've used a different code for the 'N' version of this set.
rustic23 wrote:By the way, does anyone have a solution for the Dishnetwork second remote? It is a radio remote and you guessed it no Akai TV. Not sure there is any solution to this.
I've not heard of any solutions for this one.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:08 pm
by johnsfine
The Robman wrote:It sounds like you have confirmed that this is the wrong code,
Probably. But there are obscure possibilities, for example the VCR device button may have been assigned some other device type before you programmed it with setup code 0042, so you aren't really testing VCR/0042.

Also, what went wrong with the original remote? Are you sure the remote is broken, not the TV's IR sensor?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:05 pm
by The Robman
The guys at Akai say that they are only aware of two versions of the LCT2662, which both use similar signals. Could you please post the serial number for your unit (or PM it to me if you don't want to post it).

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:52 pm
by rustic23
SN 5001800970

I reprogramed the 8811 with 0042 on vcr. no luck with 1 or 2 controling volume. I also have a new URC3220. Programed it also. Same results. Also, did a master reset on the 8811 before programming it, and I never moved any keys or reassigned anything, well not on purpose. With two remotes both with the same results, I don't think 0042 is a valad code.

Remote was damaged when it was stepped. Cracked the outer shell at the ir sensor and looks like it cracked the circuit board. So, I don't think it is the TV. It was working fine, and is still working, as long as you use the buttons on the tv.

I ordered one of those small key chain remotes to see it I could get it to work. Don't have it yet. I'll let you know if I can get it to work. I figure if it does I can use the learning function. As I said, all I really need is on/off and volume.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:42 pm
by rustic23
I ordered a remote from Akai. $80 delivered! Now you talk about rip offs! you can buy a TV for that, maybe not a 27in but still that is a lot of cash for a cheap product. When I get it I will learn it into several remotes.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:58 pm
by The Robman
rustic23 wrote:I ordered a remote from Akai. $80 delivered! Now you talk about rip offs! you can buy a TV for that, maybe not a 27in but still that is a lot of cash for a cheap product. When I get it I will learn it into several remotes.
What information did you give them when you placed the order? How and where did you place the order? Maybe I can alert them that it is in relation to this thread.

I haven't received a reply yet from Akai as to whether your SN confirms or denies that you have an unusual model, but if you have the regular LCD2662 then I could have programmed a remote for you for $20.

Of course, if you have the regular LCD2662, then the code experiments that we asked you to do would have worked. However, assuming that they didn't fail due to user error, the remote that Akai is going to send you will most likely send the same signals, which means it won't work.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:55 am
by rustic23
By phone and it was for a ltc 2662N. 1 800 726 4405. They answer "Akai Customer Service".

I'll let you know. I have programed the 8811 to work with my DVD, SAT, and suround system. I became pretty good at learning codes as I placed things in m1-m4, l1-l4, the sat was not for a pvr so I learned all the functions of the pvr. I reset several times during this process to get it exactily like I wanted, so while it is still possible that it could be operator error, I doubt it. As I said, there is no reason for the TV to have gone bad at the same time I steped on the remote. It was not on at the time and nothing appeared to change.

In my research, as I said, Logitech indicates that there are two models a LCT 2662 and a LCT 2662N. What's the difference? Beats me!

I'll let you know when the new remote arrives.