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I'm just curious how much one can do when setting up an extended remote in RM. For the 8811 extended remote, once I got my devices setup and and the extender installed, I did all my macro definitions in IR. What can RM be used for once you have an IR file that has all the correct device setups, upgrades and protocols?

I hope I asked this clearly enough...

Best,
jeff

In general, the extenders make more buttons available for assigning functions, in both RM and IR. Specifically all the x-shifted buttons, but other special use buttons become general use buttons with the extender.

greenough1 wrote:I'm just curious how much one can do when setting up an extended remote in RM.

Do you mean using RM at all, or do you mean using RM instead of KM?

greenough1 wrote:For the 8811 extended remote, once I got my devices setup

"setup" how? With built-in setup codes? With KM upgrades downloaded from our file archives? With new upgrades built yourself?

greenough1 wrote:What can RM be used for once you have an IR file that has all the correct device setups, upgrades and protocols?

Nothing.

RM is used for building upgrades. If your upgrades are "correct" already you don't need it. But if your upgrades aren't yet "correct" enough, you might use RM to improve them.

Both KM and RM can integrate KeyMoves with an upgrade to handle key bindings that can't be carried by the hex form of an upgrade. The rules for what can be done by KeyMove are significantly different for extender vs. non extender. KM doesn't know about extenders, so its KeyMove support is based on non extender. RM gets the KeyMove rules from the RDF file, so if the RDF file is correct for the extender, RM will know what KeyMoves are possible.

So if you want key bindings that can only be done by extender KeyMoves, then RM can maintain those in an upgrade definition and KM can't.

greenough1 wrote:What can RM be used for once you have an IR file that has all the correct device setups, upgrades and protocols?

Tweaking your setup, basically. Once everything is running you might find that having extra buttons defined (e.g. source selection) or setting up an LKP or DKP might make life easier. You use IR to implemeent these special protocols but you might need RM to define buttons and shift things around generally. And when things go wrong you can ue RM to go back and inspect each upgrade and more easily see which function is assigned to which button.

Thanks guys. I didn't really ask my question clearly, but underquark got the gist of what I was asking. RM plays the role that KM does although with a more intuitive interface and the nice remote graphical layout. IR interfaces with the remote and is where you define macros and such.

Thanks again,
jeff

Some day we might have a single program that does both tasks (ie, maintain upgrades and talk to the remote), but that day's not here yet.