JP1 Remotes

1. Device: Konka KP2762UY (remote KK-Y261N)
2. Type of device: TV
3. JP1 Remote model: RS 15-2117
4. JP1 user? Yes
5. Still have original remote? Yes
6. Checked the file section? Yes, not found
7. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
8. Partially working setup code? No
9. Learning remote question? NO

Bought this cheapo TV from Bestbuy. I'm a JP1 n00b, so bear with me.

I am able to learn the codes but can't make them out in IR.exe. I'm using the latest decode.dll. All the learned code show up as

GAP-###-###-##?

edit: RS manual included a bunch of possible device code for Konka but none of them works: 0628,0632,0638,0703,0707

A few possibilities to consider:
(1) Do the learned functions WORK?
(2) Fresh batteries in both OEM and 2117?
(3) Proper learning technique?

As you have a learning remote, AND you have the original remote, AND you have learned some (all?) the signals, your best bet is to upload the learned file(s) to the diagnosis area and post links to them here.

One of the smarter guys than me (and that's quite a few!) will see why it's not decoding and if it's truly a new protocol, will crack the code for you.

Try to describe what each learned signal is in the uploaded files if it's not obvious from (the same as) the key to which it is learned.

CT

P.S. I assume you just incorrectly answered question 9 "no" as the 2117 is MOST DEFINITELY a learning remote, and you indicate that you have used it to learn, but that your decodes are not useful.

Did you look at this thread which suggests that Konka uses Aiwa or Aiwa2 protocol? While you're waiting for an expert reply you could try 0701. If that doesn't work then post your IR file with the learned codes as suggested. Also try hammering away at learning just one or two buttons even (try learning power to buttons 1,2,3; channel up to 4,5,6; number0 to 7,8,9 etc.) until you hopefully get one that is decoded successfully to give you the protocol, device number, subdevice number etc. need to build an upgrade.

Yes, it's a learning remote, sorry.

And yes, all the learned function works. That's why I'm confused why the decode didn't work. I guess I should be satified now but from what I read and seen so far, making a new device take less room than using learned function. I would also like to make a upgrade file to upload here for other to use.

I have uploade my IR file here: https://home.comcast.net/~lostdude/Lostdude.IR

Tried 0701 didn't work either.

Thanks.

The decode didn't work because it is a protocol that I never added support for to DecodeIr. Probably it's a protocol I've never even seen before (but my memory isn't good enough to be cerain of that).

The lead-out part of the signal is unusual enough that this otherwise-simple protocol may be tricky to build an executor for. I also don't know how to check whether UEI already has an executor for it.

The "gap" decodes are totally wrong because that generic decoder has been fooled by the strange lead-out. The "Mitsubishi" decode of the badly learned Mute signal is also a wrong decode from that same cause.

Thanks for all your help. I'm satified with what I got now.

FYI: Konka is supposely the 2nd or 3rd biggest TV maker in China. I suspect we will see a lot of them from now on.

Hey Lostdude,
Would you still like an upgrade for this TV? I'll probably be creating a new exec for the Konka protocol soon and I'll be looking for a tester.

Wow,

That would be great. Just let me know what I can do to help.

Here's an upgrade formatted for your 15-2116. It includes all of the buttons that you learned, though I suspect that there are more buttons to be learned. I also added a few functions that I have for an Akai TV that uses the same protocol.

Upgrade Code 0 = 0F D0 (TV/2000) Konka TV (KM v8.35)
FF 18 7E FE 74 81 02 12 13 14 11 10 0B 0F 15 0E
0A 11 10 12 13 17 1C 0C 0D 1F 1B 1E
End

Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) Konka (PB v3.11)
43 8C 11 8B 12 85 44 08 08 00 FF 04 CF 00 FF 02
DB 07 D0 05 F9 05 C9 F6 01 46 1C 14 F6 01 4C C6
F8 28 0A F6 01 58 F6 01 0A 7B EC AF
End

Here's the KM file...
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=2375

Here's the PB file...
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=2376

To John Fine:
Here's the info for the Konka protocol for DecodeIR:

carrier = 38 khz
lead in = +3032 -3012
1 pair = +500 -2500
0 pair = +500 -1500
lead out1= +500 -4000
lead out2= +500 -23000

Rob,

It worked prefectly! Even the power button which I wasn't able to use the learn function on.

Thanks much!

Glad to hear it. If there are any buttons on the original remote that aren't covered by the upgrade, please learn them and post your file, then I'll add them to the upgrade.

The Robman wrote: To John Fine:
Here's the info for the Konka protocol for DecodeIR:

carrier = 38 khz
lead in = +3032 -3012
1 pair = +500 -2500
0 pair = +500 -1500
lead out1= +500 -4000
lead out2= +500 -23000

I finally got around to adding that to DecodeIr.dll

I'm planning a few more changes today before uploading.

The info you wrote above, plus several extra details that I had to find elsewhere can all be written in IRP notation as:
{38k,500,msb}<1,-3|1,-5>(6,-6,D:8,F:8,1,-8,1,-46)+

Beyond that IRP string, the only info I needed in order to add DecoderIR support was the fact that the executor (019B) is not "comp".

I just tried it myself and it looks good. This is becoming quite a common protocol so thanks for adding it.