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Incorrect device key flashing on URC7562

 
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Incorrect device key flashing on URC7562 Reply with quote

I recently replaced a URC7562 (B01) with a URC7562 (B00), only because of the limited number of remotes available in Australia.
I had to make some small changes to phantom key assignments in RM because the new remote has less phantom keys than the old one.
The problem is that when I run a macro with the AUD device as active (as set from IR), the CD key is the one that flashes, even though I don't have anything assigned to that key. I haven't put any CD commands on the remote at all.
When the macro has finished sending, the AUD device is the one left active as if the CD key was not used at all.
It isn't really a big deal, because the macro still works, but I find it annoying.
Can anyone suggest what might be wrong? I'd rather not have to create new a new upgrade file from scratch if I can avoid it.
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uwereinert
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing is wrong. The B00 and the B01 are using different EEPROM addresses for storing the device key information. Look into the RDF.

Code:

B00                                    B01

[DeviceButtons]                        [DeviceButtons]
SAT = $00A $00B                        TV  = $00A $00B
TV  = $00C $00D                        SAT = $00C $00D
VCR = $00E $00F                        VCR = $00E $00F
CD  = $010 $011                        DVD = $010 $011
AUD = $012 $013                        CD  = $012 $013
DVD = $014 $015                        AUD = $014 $015


If you want, that the right key is flashing, you have to rebuild your macros and the assignments (setup code / device type / device key) in IR.

Uwe
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for such a quick reply, but I'm not sure the problem is with the EEPROM addresses.
I actually did create a new ugrade file, now that I think more about it. I edited the devices for my VCR, DVD and AMP in RM and copied the device upgrades into IR, then wrote new macros.
The incorrect device key flashing only happens while it's running the macro. When I press VOL+, VOL- or mute (which are AUD VPT keys for my amp), the AUD device key lights like it should.
The CD key only flashes while it's sending phantom key assignments for discrete on and other functions for my amp as a delay while I'm waiting for the TV to start up.
Maybe I'll see what happens if I assign the phantom keys to a hard key and run it in a macro.
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried it.
I set the "TV/SAT select" function for my amp on the number 8 key, then included it in the macro instead of the phantom 3 key.
When I run the macro, the "discrete on" which is assigned to a phantom key makes the CD device key flash once as it sends the signal. Then without a device change in the macro, the number 8 key sends the signal for "TV/SAT select" and makes the AUD device key flash while it's sending. Strange....
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Mark Pierson
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is likely in the [Buttons] section of the RDF. Perhaps the CD and AUD buttons have their keycodes swapped?
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can tell, the [buttons] section for the device keys appear identical. The CD and AUD buttons are the same, $11 and $21 respectively.
The [DeviceButtons] are different and I changed them so that they were the same as the old remotes' RDF but it still acted the same.
But even if they were wrong, wouldn't the CD key flash whenever I wanted to use an AUD function instead of it happening only when I run an AUD command in a macro (and then, only with phantom or discrete functions)?
I wonder if I've got a remote that doesn't quite match the RDF.
I seem to remember getting the EM60EM60 signature from the battery cover on my old remote along with the B01. I don't know for sure because I don't have it. My wife threw it away when it got wet and wouldn't work anymore (at least, that's what she says happened).
The new remote has this written on the battery cover:

URC-7562 B00
C F9X CF-C0C9 DC

I tried to set up an extender for the remote, but having this problem is preventing some of the functions working at all when I put a macro on a device key.
How do I work out which RDF is the correct one? EBV0EBV0 or EVB0EBV1?
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uwereinert
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaleMac wrote:
I seem to remember getting the EM60EM60 signature from the battery cover on my old remote along with the B01.

This is correct.

DaleMac wrote:
The new remote has this written on the battery cover:

URC-7562 B00
C F9X CF-C0C9 DC

This reads my battery cover too.

DaleMac wrote:
How do I work out which RDF is the correct one? EBV0EBV0 or EVB0EBV1?

My remote is using the EBV0EBV1. AFAIK, the EBV0EBV0 is for the 7550 or the 7560 with the old S3C80.

Uwe
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damir



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
EBV0EBV0 is for the 7550 or the 7560 with the old S3C80.

There is no 7550/7560 with old S3C80, all versions of 7550/7560 use new S3C80.
EBV0EBV0 is signature of 7550/7560 with old firmware, extender documentation clerly states that.

DaleMac can you post your eeprom image to diagnosis area? I'd like to take a look at it...
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just added the file "DaleMac7562.zip" to the diagnosis area. It contains the IR file I've been having trouble with as well as the RM upgrade files for the devices I'm using.
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damir



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plese can you test IR file I uploaded.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1839
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Damir, it works a treat.
Assigning the phantom and discrete keys to the CD device made the AUD key flash as they were sending. Functions appear to work fine.
I see what you did in the Keymove section of IR but I'm confused about the Device Button and Type columns in the general tab. Was that because the RDF doesn't quite match my remote signature?
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damir



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When executing keymoves remote is "flashing device type"
instead of "flashing bound device button".
So I changed the type of your 2023 upgrade from CD/Audio to DevType4 (on devices tab).
That required changing the device type in keymoves involving setup code 2023 and
type of setup code 2023 assigned to AUD button in general tab.
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DaleMac



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes sense.

Thanks again.

I'll delete the file from the diagnosis area now
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