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Nils_Ekberg Expert
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I did assign 1775 (I assume you mean in IR). The first upgrade I tried (the one without the protocol update) worked and displayed 1775 on the LCD. The other displayed 0397 even though it was set to 1775 in IR. |
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing I've noticed is that while holding down either the ON or OFF LKP macro for any device that I've defined LKPs for, the display says SAT (or CBL, DVD etc.) 0156 for the last command until I release it, and then returns to the appropriate device setup code after the button has been released.
0156 is the device setup code for my Toshiba TV.
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Nils_Ekberg Expert
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Which one would you like? The one with the 2nd device upgrade? I'm currently browsing the JP1 Yahoo files to see if there are any other upgrades to try. There is one listed for an Echostar (yet another name for these ExpressVU/DishNetwork/Echostar SAT boxes) 4900 based on the 0775 setup code with device combiners.
Let me know which IR you'd like. I suspect its the one where I was getting the 0397 code for SAT? |
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I have loaded on the remote at present. It has the stock 0775 setup code with my nested macros for ON. When you press and hold ON it loops through the macro twice and halt apparently on the final keypress of the macro, but displaying SAT 0156. (0156 is my TV setup code)
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1294
This is the link to the 2nd device upgrade which required the protocol update and displays 0392 when in SAT mode on my remote, even though I've defined SAT as 1775 in IR.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1295
I'm interested to know what you think of all of this... |
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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PS - The 2nd link doesn't operate my SAT receiver... nothing happens. I guess the protocol is incompatible? |
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I've solved the loop problem. I wasn't using SHIFT-Power, I was just using Power for my Power commands, and as I have LKP macros on my Power button, it was calling that command and thus the loop. At least, I think that is what was happening as using SHIFT-Power instead of Power seems to break the loop.
So, now if I hold the SAT ON macro it does indeed hold the final command, much the same way the OFF command worked.
So ... if I press and hold the ON or OFF for a long while, then release it the SAT box does respond. So I guess there is a duration issue with the IR burst and my setup?!?
I'll upload my IR file so you can take a look at what I did.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1296
progress... |
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
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Nils_Ekberg Expert
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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OK, that was the first thing I was going to mention. so that's fixed.
Now this is just a suggestion so ignore it if you want since it may or may not fix your SAT power problem.
I would take all the power functions out of the device macros/LKP's. Just make one version of the power LKP for each device with all devices in it for the long and just shift-power for the short then clone it for all devices. Would look something like:
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LKP;1106;CBL;Power;DEV_TV;Shift-Power;DEV_DVD;Shift-Power;DEV_AUX;Shift-Power;DEV_VCR;Shift-Power;DEV_SAT;Shift-Power;
LKP;1106;TV;Power;DEV_TV;Shift-Power;DEV_DVD;Shift-Power;DEV_AUX;Shift-Power;DEV_VCR;Shift-Power;DEV_SAT;Shift-Power;
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This way you will not get an out of synch problem with what is powered on and off and also simplifies your device macros. It will be either all devices on or all devices off for the long press and if one fails one way or the other you can use the short press for that device to fix it. This is the best approach since your devices don't appear to have discrete power codes.
The benefit here is then all your device macros have to do is worry about button group selection and input selection. _________________ Nils
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Its a good suggestion... the biggest hurdle would be getting my wife re-trained.
How should I go about trying to fix the duration issue with the SAT Power command though? I suspect that this will be an issue even with the other method of organization.
Thanks again, this is almost working the way I had planned which is something very neat considering where I began!
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Nils_Ekberg Expert
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious but did the SAT Power LKP work at all. I am still not convinced it is a duration problem but some kind of delay or other timing problem.
Also, have you ever tried doing a shift-power manually, and did it work? _________________ Nils
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greenough1
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Can someone point me to the documentation on the LKP protocol. I've not found it , but need to read up on the DEV_, SET_, etc. stuff.
Oh, I saw these commands in the SP window of Phobia's setup. When I go into mine, I don't see DEV_ or SET_ as available keys.
Thanks,
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Phobia
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Toronto, ON |
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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The SAT ON/OFF LKP does work, but not consistantly. I've tried placing the SAT SHIFT-Power command in each position in the macro with the same result. If I press and hold the LKP as you had suggested, I am able to get the SAT box to power on 100% of the time after I've released the button, but this isn't how its meant to work. I should be able to release the LKP after the first device powers on and the SAT should turn on, but it doesn't 2 out of 3 times.
If I use the power on without the LKP, it does seem to need more than a quick tap of the power button in order to respond, unlike all of my other devices. If I hold the power button for a brief while then release it, the device powers on.
I really think that increasing the duration of the SAT Power command would fix the problem, but of course I'm coming from inexperience with these things, so what do I know really? |
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gfb107 Expert
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