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[Nils_Ekberg]

Make sure you assigned 1775 to the SAT device
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[Phobia]

I did assign 1775 (I assume you mean in IR). The first upgrade I tried (the one without the protocol update) worked and displayed 1775 on the LCD. The other displayed 0397 even though it was set to 1775 in IR.

[Phobia]

Another thing I've noticed is that while holding down either the ON or OFF LKP macro for any device that I've defined LKPs for, the display says SAT (or CBL, DVD etc.) 0156 for the last command until I release it, and then returns to the appropriate device setup code after the button has been released.

0156 is the device setup code for my Toshiba TV.

bizzare.

[Nils_Ekberg]

Upload the latest version of your IR file for me.
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[Phobia]

Which one would you like? The one with the 2nd device upgrade? I'm currently browsing the JP1 Yahoo files to see if there are any other upgrades to try. There is one listed for an Echostar (yet another name for these ExpressVU/DishNetwork/Echostar SAT boxes) 4900 based on the 0775 setup code with device combiners.

Let me know which IR you'd like. I suspect its the one where I was getting the 0397 code for SAT?

[Phobia]

This is what I have loaded on the remote at present. It has the stock 0775 setup code with my nested macros for ON. When you press and hold ON it loops through the macro twice and halt apparently on the final keypress of the macro, but displaying SAT 0156. (0156 is my TV setup code)

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1294

This is the link to the 2nd device upgrade which required the protocol update and displays 0392 when in SAT mode on my remote, even though I've defined SAT as 1775 in IR.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1295

I'm interested to know what you think of all of this...

[Phobia]

PS - The 2nd link doesn't operate my SAT receiver... nothing happens. I guess the protocol is incompatible?

[Phobia]

I've solved the loop problem. I wasn't using SHIFT-Power, I was just using Power for my Power commands, and as I have LKP macros on my Power button, it was calling that command and thus the loop. At least, I think that is what was happening as using SHIFT-Power instead of Power seems to break the loop.

So, now if I hold the SAT ON macro it does indeed hold the final command, much the same way the OFF command worked.

So ... if I press and hold the ON or OFF for a long while, then release it the SAT box does respond. So I guess there is a duration issue with the IR burst and my setup?!?

I'll upload my IR file so you can take a look at what I did.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1296

progress...

[Phobia]

Ok ...

Here is my last IR file with all "Power" commands in all of my macros changed to "SHIFT-Power". No looping occurs when I press and hold any of my LKP macros now.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1297

[Nils_Ekberg]

OK, that was the first thing I was going to mention. so that's fixed.

Now this is just a suggestion so ignore it if you want since it may or may not fix your SAT power problem.

I would take all the power functions out of the device macros/LKP's. Just make one version of the power LKP for each device with all devices in it for the long and just shift-power for the short then clone it for all devices. Would look something like:

[Phobia]

Its a good suggestion... the biggest hurdle would be getting my wife re-trained.

How should I go about trying to fix the duration issue with the SAT Power command though? I suspect that this will be an issue even with the other method of organization.

Thanks again, this is almost working the way I had planned which is something very neat considering where I began!

-- Phob

[Nils_Ekberg]

Just curious but did the SAT Power LKP work at all. I am still not convinced it is a duration problem but some kind of delay or other timing problem.

Also, have you ever tried doing a shift-power manually, and did it work?
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[greenough1]

Can someone point me to the documentation on the LKP protocol. I've not found it , but need to read up on the DEV_, SET_, etc. stuff.

Oh, I saw these commands in the SP window of Phobia's setup. When I go into mine, I don't see DEV_ or SET_ as available keys.

Thanks,
jeff

[Phobia]

The SAT ON/OFF LKP does work, but not consistantly. I've tried placing the SAT SHIFT-Power command in each position in the macro with the same result. If I press and hold the LKP as you had suggested, I am able to get the SAT box to power on 100% of the time after I've released the button, but this isn't how its meant to work. I should be able to release the LKP after the first device powers on and the SAT should turn on, but it doesn't 2 out of 3 times.

If I use the power on without the LKP, it does seem to need more than a quick tap of the power button in order to respond, unlike all of my other devices. If I hold the power button for a brief while then release it, the device powers on.

I really think that increasing the duration of the SAT Power command would fix the problem, but of course I'm coming from inexperience with these things, so what do I know really?

[gfb107]

LKP, and the DEV_ and SET_ keys are part of the extender.

LKP (and other special protocols) is also available as a standalone protocol for some remotes, see Special Protocols.
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