JP1 Remotes

I have several things going on at once here. My next problem is with my 8810 remote and my Symphonic WF-719 TV,VCR,DVD combo. I just want the TV part to work with my remote. I just had Directv installed with the D10 receiver is the reason for all this.

My problem IS:
The remote operates the TV fine with learned codes; when I download the codes from the remote to IR, IR says the codes are setup code 0171. This is what EVERY listing says. HOWEVER when I setup the remote for setup code 0171 it doesn't operate the TV.
Here's what IR says:
For the Vol+ key:
# Device Sub device OBC Hex EFC
1 135 34 240 F0 141
HELP!
I have downloaded most or your site and printed out a ream of How Tos
Thanks, Don

You are probably best off creating a new upgrade (based on decoding learned signals).

TV/0171 is wrong.

The 8810 includes a setup code DVD/0675 that is probably pretty close AND could be patched with EFC keymoves to operate the whole device. But doing a new upgrade in KM or RM would probably end up less total effort.

dongentry wrote:The remote operates the TV fine with learned codes; when I download the codes from the remote to IR, IR says the codes are setup code 0171. HOWEVER when I setup the remote for setup code 0171 it doesn't operate the TV.

IR doesn't report setup codes based on learned signals, so you are not reading the results correctly.

I tried to uplaod a .jpeg file into the diagnostic area for you to see but I don't know what happened. I got "page could not be displayed".
In my post, the line above the word help, is what was in the box at the top of the screen. I didn't put that there. the remote didn't put it there. All I did was download the data from the remote.
Where did it come from?
Don

dongentry wrote:I tried to uplaod a .jpeg file

Pictures don't do any good. You need to upload the saved file from IR.

Where did it come from?

That's the decoded learned signal.

Device: 135
Sub device: 34
OBC: 240
Hex: F0
EFC: 141

It should have also given you a Protocol name. All this information becomes the basis for creating an upgrade with either KM or RM.

Ok I did leave off the NEC1 part. I was only sending the jpeg file to show Rob that the information was in the IR screen.
The IR file is in the diagnostic area called "symphonic tv part1.ir" It is the first part of the codes I learned from the original remote to the 8810. If you need the rest I can give them to you.
Thanks for your help,
Don

dongentry wrote: I did leave off the NEC1 part.

I was just about to post the fact that it should be "NEC1" (which I knew from my large library of IR codes) assuming you hadn't understood that part of IR's output (which now we see you did understand).

dongentry wrote: I was only sending the jpeg file to show Rob that the information was in the IR screen.

Reasonable beginner error, but for the future don't post screen captures from IR.EXE. If there is any reason for us to look at those we'd rather have the .ir file and open it in IR.EXE ourselves and see the same screen (but be able to navigate to any related screens we might need in order to put it in context).

dongentry wrote: The IR file is in the diagnostic area called "symphonic tv part1.ir" It is the first part of the codes I learned from the original remote to the 8810. If you need the rest I can give them to you.

I didn't look at that file, since there don't seem to be any remaining open questions about it.

You should be able to build the upgrade yourself in RemoteMaster based on learning and decoding the rest of those signals. You shouldn't need to post them. But if you have trouble with RM, then they may be worth posting.

The protocol (NEC1), device and subdevice should be the same for all the signals of that device. You enter those on the setup sheet, then enter the function names and OBCs on the functions sheet. Then you're up to the part of using RM that you've already done for a downloaded file.

dongentry wrote:The remote operates the TV fine with learned codes; when I download the codes from the remote to IR, IR says the codes are setup code 0171. This is what EVERY listing says. HOWEVER when I setup the remote for setup code 0171 it doesn't operate the TV.

Having looked at your file, I can't figure out where you got the 0171 from.

As John said, try the DVD/0675 code to see if it at least partially works for you. If not, you can take all those learned signal decodes and very quickly create an upgrade for the device in KM or RM.

Well, you got me! Obviously I didn't get it from IR as I thought. I have a printout of the Advanced codes for TV_0171 and the EFCs are the same as those reported by IR from the learned signals.
Also the code sheet for the 8810 says use code 0171. That's probably what I was thinking about. I was trying what you said as you were typing. I just configured Vol+, Vol-, and mute. When I tried to copy from RM to IR the copy goes fine. It asked for a protocol ID and I got that from the RM setup screen 00 b6. when I enter that it said illegal character in input.
I just tried it again and it went ok.
I'll see what happens now.
Thank you very much,
Don

dongentry wrote:It asked for a protocol ID and I got that from the RM setup screen 00 b6.

If RM was showing a PID of 00 b6 then you had the NEC1 Combo protocol selected instead of NEC1. The upgrade likely won't work, or will produce unpredictable results.

Now I'm back to the problem I had. When I copy and paste from RM to IR and enter the PID (005a) it says "invalid character in input". I tried it several times. What am I doing wrong now?
Don

Are you manually selecting the code to be pasted, or are you using the Copy button?

If you're doing it manually, you must select EVERYTHING including the words "Upgrade" and "End".

If you continue to have problems, upload the saved RM file to the Diagnosis area and post a link to it here (be sure to read about posting links).

dongentry wrote:When I copy and paste from RM to IR and enter the PID (005a)

If you pasted the whole upgrade, you don't need to enter the PID. IR gets it from the upgrade.

I believe there is a more serious problem than that. I can open RM so no data is there, if I select NEC1 from the protocol dropdown menu it won't let me select the output tab. All the other tabs work ok. I can select NEC2 or any other NEC protocol it works ok. Every now and then It will work right with NEC1 but then I get the problem in the last post. That don't sound like something I'm doing wrong. I just went thru the whole shebang with the Satellite codes and had no problems. What now.?
I really appreciate your sticking with me on this.
Don

I pasted what was in the top box (device upgradecode), there was nothing in the upgrade protocol code box. What you said is the way it worked with everything else I have copied from RM.
I put a file null.rmdu in the diagnostic area. IR gives the invalid input problem with that info.
With the NEC1 data I can't upload anything from that. It says the file is corrupted or empty.
Don