KOSS KD365

[DavidEC2955]

Does anybody have the upgrade codes for this DVD player?

KOSS KD365

Remotes to be programed are:
RCA-810A/B [one of each]
RS 15-2133
RS 15-2104
RS 15-2107


I just had to replace my 18-month old RCA DVD player due to the fact that it quit playing many of the newer "Sony/Columbia/TriStar' DVD movie releases!

I also wanted a DVD player that supported record-able media which the RCA only did on a limited number of "+RW" disc's...

Also I have not visited this forum in a long long time......glade to see that it is still alive and growing!!

David

[johnsfine]

Did you try the two upgrades in the Yahoo devices DVD folder?

I know neither matches your model number, but codes are often the same across multiple models.

The OFA documentation I found listed on DVD/0651 for Koss DVDs. That matches the Koss KD260 upgrade (the DVP2163 does not match DVD/0651).

DVD/0651 is in the 15-2133, so you might try that. Your other remotes would need the upgrade file.

[DavidEC2955]

Did you try the two upgrades in the Yahoo devices DVD folder?

DVD/0651 is in the 15-2133, so you might try that. Your other remotes would need the upgrade file.

I had not tested it on the 15-2133.... but neither of the codes from Yahoo worked with my 15-2104?

I normally [in the past] try to program the codes into either my RCA810 or RS-15-2104....

But it seems that neither of these remotes will accecpt the IR code... they blink like they have received the IR from the OEM's remote... but ... do not blink a send when I press the learned key??

I will try the posted code on my 16-2133 and see what happens....

Thanks for the reply!

--David

[johnsfine]

I had not tested it on the 15-2133.... but neither of the codes from Yahoo worked with my 15-2104?

If you correctly tested the 0651 upgrade in the 15-2104 and it failed, then the 0651 built-in on the 15-2133 will also fail.

But it seems that neither of these remotes will accecpt the IR code... they blink like they have received the IR from the OEM's remote... but ... do not blink a send when I press the learned key??

We've seen rare cases of a signal learned that is too long to be transmitted as a learned signal. I forget the exact symptoms, and whether they matched what you just described. I can't think of another reason why it might behave as you describe.

If the blink pattern really indicated something was learned, then we can probably determine a lot from an eeprom image containing those learned signal (we certainly could in the case of those signals that managed to get learned and stored too long to be sent). So (relearn if necessary, then) post an eeprom image to the diagnostic folder including a few of those learned signals.

In case it is a simpler error during the learning process, you might want to review the instructions for learning and/or describe the steps you followed and the blink patterns you got.

You may also want to try a 981 reset right before you start the learning process in case messed up eeprom contents are making the learning fail (since you have JP1, I assume your eeprom contents are backed up on the PC so whatever is erased by the 981 reset can be easily restored).

[DavidEC2955]

I had not tested it on the 15-2133.... but neither of the codes from Yahoo worked with my 15-2104?

If you correctly tested the 0651 upgrade in the 15-2104 and it failed, then the 0651 built-in on the 15-2133 will also fail.

But it seems that neither of these remotes will accecpt the IR code... they blink like they have received the IR from the OEM's remote... but ... do not blink a send when I press the learned key??

If the blink pattern really indicated something was learned, ....

0651 does not work on the 15-2133... [insert grown man crying here]

Well it seems that the 15-2104 will not learn the codes but my RCA810 will lean??

So off to try to create the codes needed....

--David

[Mark Pierson]

Well it seems that the 15-2104 will not learn the codes but my RCA810 will lean??

Perhaps the 2104's learning memory is full? Download it into IR and save the current configuration. Then do a 9-8-1 reset to clear the EEPROM and try learning again. Also, you want to be sure the batteries in both remotes are fresh, as learning can be affected by weak batteries.

[DavidEC2955]

Well it seems that the 15-2104 will not learn the codes but my RCA810 will lean??

Perhaps the 2104's learning memory is full? Download it into IR and save the current configuration. Then do a 9-8-1 reset to clear the EEPROM and try learning again. Also, you want to be sure the batteries in both remotes are fresh, as learning can be affected by weak batteries.

Per_IR Ver3.5x the 15-2104 does not have any learned or other memory used??

But maybe some other thing has happened and will try the "981" reset.. thanks for the info.

--David

[DavidEC2955]

OK I am trying to build the codes for this DVD player and following is what "IR Ver.5.10" is stating for the "learned" power key:
{Decode IR Version 2.14}
*1 Protocol: RECS80 Device: 5 Sub-Device:_{Blank}_ OBC: 30 HEX: 84 EFC: 238 Misc: T-1 (182/5012/7534) Frequency: 38277

OK which of the "RECS80" protocols is this??

I am doing something wrong because when I try to build the device in 'Keymaster' and reload the code.. the code does not want to work??

Where can I upload the learned keys dump from IR.EXE for some one more knowledgeable to view?

--David

[The Robman]

Where can I upload the learned keys dump from IR.EXE for some one more knowledgeable to view?

The Diagnosis Area.

[johnsfine]

The readme file for DecodeIR has rules for figuring out which RECS80 a sample is. One of those rules is
--------
For 0045,
frequency should be between 37000 and 39000
first timing number between 100 and 200
second timing number between 4500 and 5500
third timing number between 6800 and 8300
--------
That's a perfect fit for your timings. So if we didn't already know (from all the other DVD/0651 examples) that this was RECS80(45) we would now.

So that leaves the question of why DVD/0651 didn't work.

[johnsfine]

I also checked the OBC for power. 30 is correct, both for the DVD/0651 built in on the 15-2133 and the various Koss and Oritron upgrades that use RECS80(45).

I guess the file we need to see in the diagnosis folder is the eeprom image you used to test either that 0651 upgrade you tried earlier or the one you made yourself.

I'm even more confused that DVD/0651 on the 15-2133 failed. Did you assign that via IR or via the remote itself? Did you check to make sure you didn't have left over KeyMoves or learned signals from your previous DVD?

[DavidEC2955]

I also checked the OBC for power. 30 is correct, both for the DVD/0651 built in on the 15-2133 and the various Koss and Oritron upgrades that use RECS80(45).

I guess the file we need to see in the diagnosis folder is the eeprom image you used to test either that 0651 upgrade you tried earlier or the one you made yourself.

I'm even more confused that DVD/0651 on the 15-2133 failed. Did you assign that via IR or via the remote itself? Did you check to make sure you didn't have left over KeyMoves or learned signals from your previous DVD?

Hu??

Ok you speak of 'Oritron' DVD players... are they the same as the KOSS??

The DVD_651 that I downloaded does not use RECS80(45).. but uses manual settings for the protocol.

I used "IR" to send the DVD player and made sure that all learned DVD keys were deleted before uploading back into the 15-2133

After posting this I will go to Yahoo! and upload the IR Learned file into what I hope is the correct file folder...

--David


[edit] I posted and have since deleted the learned file......

[DavidEC2955]

I also checked the OBC for power. 30 is correct, both for the DVD/0651 built in on the 15-2133 and the various Koss and Oritron upgrades that use RECS80(45).

The trouble is in the DVD files area there are two files listed for the KOSS DVD players that used 0651...

One titled:
Koss KD260 0651.txt
upgrade file for the Koss KD260

The onther one titled:
Oritron_&_Koss_DVDs_(DVD-0651).txt
Upgrade for the Oritron DVD600 and the Koss KD260

The "Oritron_&_Koss" version works correctly...

But it was not till you posted about the "Oritron DVD" players did I even have a clue to try it....

And about my 15-2133... it seems that I used device code number 651 one time in the past for a custom code that over wrote the built-in code for DVD_651....

So in short thanks for all the help!!!!!!

--David

[The Robman]

Just to clarify, when the experts here refer to a setup code number (such as DVD/0651) we are always talking about the official UEI codes that are either built into the remote, or have been downloaded from an official source.

We are NEVER referring to the code numbers that users have chosen to call their upgrades that they post in the file section. As you have discovered in your 15-2133, you are totally free to call your upgrades whatever you want, and as such you are free to re-use code numbers that are also used as official code numbers. So, the fact that someone called their upgrade DVD/0651 does not necessarily mean that it matches the official DVD/0651.

It's also for this reason that I like to encourage people to use code numbers like DVD/2000, which are outside the current range of UEI codes, to emphasize that they are not official numbers.

[johnsfine]

We are NEVER referring to the code numbers that users have chosen to call their upgrades that they post in the file section.

In this case I *was* refering to the setup code DVD/0651 in upgrades posted in the file area.

Both the manual one (that David says doesn't work) and the RECS80 one appear to match the DVD/0651 setup code that UEI has built-in on a few models.

I may have time later to check whether something is wrong with the one that didn't work.