Need help with Harman Kardon AVR630

[bsk4life]

I'm a total newbie with this JP1 stuff so please don't kill me if I screw up somewhere. I've got a modified URC-6131 that I want to program to control my Harman Kardon AVR630 receiver. I've got the receiver's original remote but I don't have a learning JP1 remote. I found some codes for older HK receivers but they don't have a lot of the functions of the AVR630. Can anybody help me or tell me how to get the codes for the AVR630?

Thanks,
Tony.

[The Robman]

It's for cases like this that it's really useful to have a JP1 learning remote at your disposal (like the URC-8811 that I sell for $19, plug plug, you can also get it at Walmart for about the same price).

Without a learning remote, your next step should be to search the Pronto file section over at Remote Central to see if you can find a CCF file for this device over there. If you find one, download the DecodeCCF program to extract the codes out of it. If you find a file but are intimidated by DecodeCCF, just post a link to the CCF and one of us will take a look at it.

[johnsfine]

I found some codes for older HK receivers but they don't have a lot of the functions of the AVR630.

The HK CCF files at RC have a LOT of functions. I haven't compared that to any JP1 files, so maybe those have less. HK seems fairly consistent in functions across models, so I think you can find the functions in CCF files, even if you don't find and exact model match (I haven't checked).

download the DecodeIR program to extract the codes out of it.

I assume Rob meant the DecodeCCF program, plus the DecodeIR dll.

[bsk4life]

Thanks a lot guys. This forum really rocks!

[The Robman]

download the DecodeIR program to extract the codes out of it.

I assume Rob meant the DecodeCCF program, plus the DecodeIR dll.

Indeed, I just fixed the original post.

[bsk4life]

All I could find was a PCF file, which I guess is used with the new color prontos. I tried to use the DecodeCCF file on it but all I got out of it was some column headings with no other content. Is there a way to decode a PCF file or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Tony.

[johnsfine]

Is there a way to decode a PCF file

It's probably not worth the trouble. We haven't written a program for it, so you'd need to get it one button at a time.

You can download the version of ProntoEditNG needed to open that PCF file and browse it. Within that program (I think after selecting "advanced" from the file menu) you can "View/Edit IR" to get the Pronto Hex of any one button at a time. You can copy/paste Pronto Hex to the JP1 version of IrTool to get the decode (of one button).

Instead I suggest getting one of the existing HK combo upgrades (for a different model HK), such as Wheelie's version from here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files ... les/Audio/

Most of the commands are probably the same. You might want to try DecodeCCF on a few other models (CCF files) and you probably need to test each function to see what works for your model. But I still think you'll get there faster starting with a good HK upgrade for the wrong model than with a PCF for the right model.

[bsk4life]

I appreciate the info. I'll give the combo upgrade for one of the older models a shot.

Thanks,
Tony.

[jon_armstrong]

I just took a look and spot checked a few entries in ProntoEditNG aka PENG in adddition to John's general instructions:

Open "Codes", by clicking on the plus sign
Double click on the Power On button (for example)
double click "learned IR code"
select "View/Edit IR" box
that opens another dialog box with:

900A 006D 0000 0001 8070 C03F

This is the data base format:

009A is NEC1, IIRC

006D 0000 0001 you can ignore this part
8070 C03F is the 32 data bits represented in hex
rewriting and discarding the last byte (3F) ==> 80 70 C0

that is decimal 128 112 192 or NEC1:128.112:192 (Protocol:Device.Subdevice:OBC)

Off is

900A 006D 0000 0001 8070 9F60

or NEC1:128.112:159

Dolby Digital

900A 006D 0000 0001 8272 50AF
NEC1:130.114:80

I agree with John's advice, only do this if a command is missing from the other files since it's tedious.

[johnsfine]

I had what I thought was a good enough excuse not to add that sort of processing (currently only in DecodeCCF) into CCF2EFC when Rob asked for it a while back.

The same excuse isn't valid for IrTool. PCF files and PENG are increasing the need for IrTool to do the above translation for you.

I guess I need to increase the position of IrTool enhancements within my own JP1 priority list. (I had forgotten the likelyhood that it was in 900A format when I suggested using PENG with IrTool).

[bsk4life]

Guys, thanks for all of your help on this. I used the combo upgrade that John suggested and everything seems to be working well.

Thanks,
Tony.

[Wheelie4]