JP1 Remotes

[jimdunn]

Hi

Thanks for the forum and great tools - this is a great way to get the perfect remote !!!

I built my JP1 cable, created upgrades for all my devices (which I've uploaded to Yahoo in case anyone else can benefit from them), and got my remote down from 100% memory use to less than 40%. I've used IR and RM to get my remote almost perfect - just would like to do a couple of final tweaks, so

Is there a Long/Double KeyPress protocol for the URC-7560 ?

I looked in the Yahoo files but couldn't see anything obvious.

Thanks for any help

Jim

[jimdunn]

I realise that this particular remote isn't common in the US so that's probably why no-one has been able to answer - so maybe I should ask a different question...

If anyone knows for sure that I can't do this with current tools then I'd appreciate that information.

And please don't think I'm being impatient or pushy - I appreciate the free tools and help here - just trying to find out for sure which way to go...

Oh, and i guess I'm giving my post a bit of a bump too...

[The Robman]

I was hoping one of the guys who know about the LDKP tool would answer, I didn't answer because I've never used it so I don't know.

I looked in the file section and it appears that normally an extender is required to make this work, and the 7560 extender isn't listed in the list of supported extenders.

Does that mean it doesn't work with the 750 extender? I don't know. Is it possible to make a version that would work without an extender? I expect so, as it appears Dave Vasquez made one for the 15-2116 that works without an extender and then Nils cloned it for the URC-8910.
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Rob
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[jimdunn]

Thanks, Rob

I had got that far actually - I looked into the extender, and noticed it wasn't listed as compatible with LDKP. I downloaded the extender and there didn't seem to be any LDKP functionality.

I also noticed that there were standalone LDKP protocols for some remotes - but seemingly not mine

I didn't know how hard (or easy) it would be for one of those protocols to be adapted for my remote - or even if it was possible.

It's no huge thing - because, as I said, I'm 95% happy with what I have been able to achieve - just that last 5% would be nice...

Jim

[Nils_Ekberg]

Somehow I missed this question and it is one I typically jump on. I will take a look at the extender and LDKP and see what I can do.
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Nils
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Diagnosis File Section

[jimdunn]

Thanks Nils

I certainly appreciate any time you spend looking at this.

Jim

[damir]

Until Nils posts something more elegant you can try this protocol (working with or without extender).


LKP protocol upgrade:

for old urc-7560 B00 (signature EBV0EBV0)
Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 82 (S3C8+)
00 00 12 E4 03 4A F6 1A 18 F6 07 7E FB 0A 76 89
20 6B F6 E4 05 84 8B 03 E4 04 84 8D 10 97
End

for new urc-7560 B01 (signature EBV0EBV1)
Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 82 (S3C8+)
00 00 12 E4 03 4A F6 1A 23 F6 07 7F FB 0A 76 89
20 6B F6 E4 05 84 8B 03 E4 04 84 8D 10 98
End


device upgrade:

Upgrade code 0 = 2F 09 (VCR/1801)
82 00 01 02
End

Fixed data 02 is duration threshold, you can change it to 01 (shorter) or 03 (longer)...

URC-7560 lacks long keymove support so macros for LKP/DKP must be entered
in different way then in official LKP/DKP protocol.

Example:
Create macros for short and long key press and assign them to
phantoms or unused shifted buttons.
You will need codes of this buttons later (Phantom1=$3A, Phantom2=$3B)

Phantom1 = 1;2
Phantom2 = 4;5;6

Create keymove on button which will invoke LKP.
Bound Key:
Device: TV Key: POWER
Function to Perform:
Device: Device Type: VCR/DVD Setup Code: 1801
Hex Cmd: 3A 3B

First byte of hex cmd is hex code of the button you assigned the 'short' macro to.
Second byte is hex code of the button you assigned the 'long' macro to.

In this case short keypress on POWER in TV mode will send 1, 2
and long keypress will send 4,5,6.

Things are more complicated if you try to do something useful:
LKP on POWER button which will on short press just execute power command,
and on long macro MENU;9;OK.

Normally macros should be like this.
Phantom1 = POWER
Phantom2 = MENU;9;OK
But this will not work because button with LKP (POWER) can not be in
short or long macro.

Solution of this problem is to keymove POWER function to phantom or shifted button
and then use this phantom/shifted button in short macro.

You can do it in IR (if it is upgraded setup code, or you know EFC) or on the remote
if setup code is built in.

So instead of Phantom1 = POWER short macro will be Phantom1 = Shift-1
(assuming function from POWER is keymoved to Shift-1)

[jimdunn]

Thanks damir

Just starting my day at work here (down under...) so I'll probably try that out tonight or tomorrow.

Since I only want to use at the most 4 LDKP items (basically, I want to put Fast Forward/Skip Forward on the same transport key, and the same with Rew/Skip back), this could be a good solution without the extender.

I just don't find it convenient having them as "Shifted" keys - and I think my wife will be more comfortable with "holding the button in to skip forward".

I'll post back to let you know how it goes - and thanks again for the detailed response.

Jim

[jimdunn]

UPDATE

damir,

I tried out your protocol and LDKP device upgrade, and it works perfectly.

I've set up all the keys I wanted to - and actually I ended up putting AV selects for AV1 toAV4 on my TV as long presses on the digits 1-4 additionally, because I liked the LDKP concept so much once I started playing with it.

It's not inelegant either really - you just need to set up a few phantom keys and short macros as you described in your very clear instructions.

Thank you very much !!!
- I'm indebted to you

Jim

[jimdunn]

Hello

In this thread, some time ago, Damir very kindly showed me how to do LDKP with a URC-7560. I now have a URC-7562 - B01, and neither of the protocols above will work with it.

Does anybody know how to alter this protocol for the new remote ?

Jim

[damir]

Try this protocol.

Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 82 (S3C8+) SKP/LKP on URC-7562 - B01
00 00 12 E4 03 4A F6 06 BF F6 30 11 FB 0A 76 6F
20 6B F6 E4 05 6A 8B 03 E4 04 6A 8D 0E 09
End

[jimdunn]

Thank you once again for such a quick response.

I'll try that out when I get home later


Jim

[jimdunn]

It works perfectly, thanks again.

Incidentally, the previous protocols on the 7560 always briefly flashed the VCR key before triggering the macro, which flashed the relevant device key (presumably because the "device" 1801 was a VCR device.)

This one, however, on the 7562, flashes the key for whichever device its being used on even though 1801 is still a VCR upgrade.

I actually prefer this new behaviour - not that it really matters much.

thanks


Jim

[wkeith]

Hi there

I am also trying to use LKP with a 7562, but the above doesn't seem to work for me Do I need to assign the 1801 upgrade to one of my device buttons?

Cheers
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WKeith

[jimdunn]

No, you just need to have the upgrade uploaded in the remote, then you use it in keymoves.

Follow the instructions in Damir's post above (the one that begins..Until Nils posts something more elegant...), but use the correct protocol for your remote,

ie If you have a 7562 B00