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[ylaviolette]

Can't identify Protocol in IR learned signals to build RM config.

See "learned signals" TAB in file below
¨Select' learned signal is ON 'left' is TEMP DOWN and 'right' is TEMP UP

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13671

Thx for your help,

PS: remote design found at :

http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Replacement-Conditioner-Universal-Gykq-03/dp/B00PHJUXRE


Worst case scenario, if the actual protocol is too complicated to decode/generate, what I would minimally require is the Pronto Hex equivalent for the 3 functions above so I can use them with a USB-UIRT device.

[The Robman]

Normally with air conditioners, the remote signal is really long because it has every setting encoded into it, that's how the remote can tell you what the temp is, the fan speed, etc etc without really having a 2 way conversation with the A/C itself.

Looking at these signals, that appears to be the case here too, but with just three samples, I can't tell you what all the settings are.

Here's what your 3 samples look like in binary:

select
11000100 11010011 01100100 10000000 00000000 00000100 11000000 10010000 00000000 00000000 0001

up
11000100 11010011 01100100 10000000 00000000 00100100 11000000 11100000 00000000 00000000 0001

down
11000100 11010011 01100100 10000000 00000000 00100100 11000000 11000000 00000000 00000000 0001

where:
1 = +500 -1200
0 = +500 -400

I would suggest that you test some of the A/C upgrades from the file section to see if any of them work:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=105

As for getting the pronto hex, you can get that from IR.exe, but remember, these aren't really select, up and down, they're signals that will set the A/C to particular settings.

select
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

up
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

down
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C
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[vickyg2003]

[The Robman]

[ylaviolette]

HI Robman/Vicky, hope you can help:

Reopening this thread as I have acquired a second A/C (Keeprite DLCDHR12K1A1) and would like to finish this project:

Ultimately, the minimum I would need is "ON" (at 20Celcius) and "OFF" for both A/C's in Hex/Pronto as I'll be using USB-UIRT to transmit commands, so no need for a full protocol.

here's what I have:

For both A/C I have learned some codes to a URC-9910

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=25289

DVD 1 = TCL Off
DVD 2 = TCL ON
DVD 4 = Keeprite Off
DVD 5 = Keeprite On

The TCL doesnt respond to the learned signals, but the Keeprite does; the ON command contains the temperature (23C in this case).

I have also learned the same codes to USB-UIRT but none works when transmitting (the signal is very short when learning via USB-UIRT and I have to manually ask the app to save as it doesn't see it as complete)

TCL Off

0000 006E 0000 0072 0072 003F 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 002E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0011 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000F 0013 0F50

TCL ON

0000 006E 0000 0072 0072 003F 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 002E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0011 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 002D 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 0010 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 002E 0013 002C 0013 002D 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 0F50

Keeprite Off

0000 006D 0000 0021 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0F90

Keeprite On (20C)

0000 006C 0000 0021 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0040 0019 0040 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0040 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0016 0019 0016 0019 0040 0019 0015 0019 0040 0019 0040 0019 0FA3


Let me know if you can help generate valid Hex codes for either one of these AC's. The Keeprite looks promising...

Thanks in advance and I am available to run any test you want

[The Robman]

We never heard back from you on the original request back in 2015, so what happened? And if we put more effort into helping you this time, should we expect a response?
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[ylaviolette]

Sorry been quite busy renovating for the last 2-3 years and couldnt do proper testing till now. I have 2 weeks vacation now so yes ill be more that glad to answer/interact
I did test existing codes provided without success / devices dont respond. The only thing working as of now is the learned codes on URC-9910 for the keeprite unit ( DVD key 4 and 5 on the IR file) however if I try to learn it via USB-UIRT it doesnt work. And since the protocol is not recognized i couldnt translate the learned signals from the IR to Hex for usage on USB-UIRT. Ill gladly construct a clean file to be shared on the forum if this works out. Again I will only use Hex codes with USB-UIRT . Thanks in advance for your help!

[The Robman]

So, if I understand correctly, you ultimately need Pronto hex to work with the USB-UIRT, but you already have that and it doesn't work, so that sounds like a limitation of the USB-UIRT. Not sure what else we can do.

Just for reference, here's the Keeprite signals in binary

01100001 01010000 00000000 01001101 Keeprite Off
01110110 01010000 00000000 01001011 Keeprite On (20C)
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[ylaviolette]

The Pronto Hex codes I have provided above, which doesn't work, are the ones I have learned directly on the USB-UIRT.

However, the signals learned on the URC-9910 (IR file provided), do work;

I've tried the binary below but still doesn't work;

Have you converted from the IR file I provided (URC-9910 learned DVD codes 4 and 5 which works) or from the Hex codes (USB-UIRT learned but doesn't work) ?

Thanks for the prompt reply,

[The Robman]

Ah, the hex came from the USB-UIRT? I assumed it came from RMIR or IR.exe, have you tried using the hex generated from the URC-9910 learns?
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[The Robman]

Here's the Pronto hex from the URC-9910 learns:

DVD 1 = TCL Off
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

DVD 2 = TCL ON
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

DVD 4 = Keeprite Off
0000 006D 0000 0046 0158 00AC 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 02FC 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 05FA

DVD 5 = Keeprite On
0000 006D 0000 0046 0158 00AC 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 02FC 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 0015 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 003F 0019 05FA

DVD-7
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

DVD-8
0000 006F 0055 0000 0073 003E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000F 0013 002C 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 002C 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 000E 0013 002C

Converting those signals into binary...

110001001101001101100100100000000000000000000100110000001000000010100000000000000001 TCL off
110001001101001101100100100000000000000000100100110000001000000010100000000000000001 TCL on

Keeprite Off
10001110111001011000110000001010010 0019 02FC
10000000110000100000000000001110 0019 05FA

Keeprite On
10011110111001011000111000001010010 0019 02FC
10000000110000100000000000001111 0019 05FA
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[ylaviolette]

Thank you Robman, will test this evening and get back to you.

[The Robman]

If the TCL learned signals don't work, even from the URC-9910, it's possible that they are cut off. I do see that they are all one-time learns (ie, there's no repeating section), so them being cut off (for being too long) is a possibility.

If you want to see if that is indeed the case, the best that I can suggest is that you buy an IR Widget. Tommy Tyler sells these for $42 shipped.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9405
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[ylaviolette]

Perfect. The Hex codes you provided for the Keeprite unit works (from urc-9910 learned codes) The binary, no. TCL neither Hex or Binary. which is not surprising since they didnt work in the first place...
Thats already great. Can you provide instructions/software I could use to convert my urc-9910 learned code to Hex? I have "makehex" which I use but I need the protocol info which I dont have for these devices. Let me know, otherwise I'll provide a few extra codes if you don't mind converting; I can then assemble a file for forum users to benefit from.

For the TCL, unless I can have working codes learned on a third party device, I guess the protocol is too complex to decode? Maybe I'll look into the decoding unit you suggested buying.

Thanks again for your help, I'll be out for the week so I'll get back to you the following week.

Have a good weekend!

[The Robman]

I am curious, when you say the binary doesn't work, what do you mean? The binary isn't meant "to work" it's just a visual representation of the signal, I don't know what application you could enter it into to make it "work".

Anyway, for the Keeprite, all I did was open your IR file using IR.exe, go to the learned codes tab, select a learned button and click edit, then change the display from UEI format to Pronto format.

For the TCL, it's not that the protocol is too complicated to decode, as you can see, I have already decoded what you posted, I suspect that the problem is that you're not capturing enough of the signal.
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