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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: New JP1 "Help" document available! Reply with quote

I've been meaning to write this document for a long time and have finally gotten around to it. In it I describe, at a fairly high-level, how to load an existing upgrade and how to create an upgrade from scratch.

My motivation for writing this document was to demonstrate just how easy using JP1 can really be, as I see alot of posts from people who say that JP1 is too intimidating for them.

I should point out that I've only covered KM in this version, though I do intend to also describe RM in a future version.

If you have a chance, please give it a quick read and let me know what you think.

MS Word version: http://www.hifi-remote.com/files/help/JP1-Easy.zip
PDF version: http://www.hifi-remote.com/files/help/JP1-Easy.pdf
HTML version: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/help/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just skimmed it over, but it looks very nice, Rob!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, I slogged through the original documentation and found it difficult to absorb. Through the kind help of yourself and others in the Yahoo group of the time I was able to get my Malata DVD and other devices set up.

I think this document, being more "task oriented" rather than technically descriptive should be a great help to other newbies.

I fell it is "well done". Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob,

Excellent and very well and clearly written.

Now has anyone gotten the user interface working for the gizmo that comes out of the monitor and grabs the prospective JP1 user by the ears and forces him or her to READ the document Smile

Kudos!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jon_armstrong wrote:
Now has anyone gotten the user interface working for the gizmo that comes out of the monitor and grabs the prospective JP1 user by the ears and forces him or her to READ the document Smile

No but we're working on it! Actually, that reminds me of one of my favorite netspeak acronyms: PEBCAK (which stands for "Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard").

Thanks for all the kind words on the doc, I guess it's ready for PrimeTime then.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: New JP1 "Help" document available! Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
HTML version: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/help/

One of the section numbers and links is incorrect:

5. How Do You Load An Upgrade takes you to 5. How Do You Create An Upgrade From Scratch?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good Rob...........

Now we should post it in all forums with the title RTFM

Read The Fine Manual

And I know some of you know the alternative for Fine (F%#$^@!)

And on the serious side should it be posted with the more technical version that was just created like a volume 1 and volume 2?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nils_Ekberg wrote:
And on the serious side should it be posted with the more technical version that was just created like a volume 1 and volume 2?


I second that suggestion ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Rickety, for a newbie like me, this would have been easier to learn with.

Also, related to the problem Mark pointed out, when you click #6, it doesn't go anywhere.

Very nice, I needed topic #6 posted about 4 days earlier to save you guys some time having to hold my hand.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New JP1 "Help" document available! Reply with quote

Mark Pierson wrote:
One of the section numbers and links is incorrect:

5. How Do You Load An Upgrade takes you to 5. How Do You Create An Upgrade From Scratch?

Thanks Mark, I just fixed it.

Nils_Ekberg wrote:
Now we should post it in all forums with the title RTFM

Read The Fine Manual

And I know some of you know the alternative for Fine (F%#$^@!)

Is the alternative John Fine??? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more acronyms for you:

ESTO - Equipment Smarter Than Owner

ID Ten 10 or ID10T....usually used in the context of an error code

PS..I like the write up very much..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just created an upgrade as a demonstation of how I think an upgrade should look. It includes all of the buttons from the original remote, plus it also includes a bunch of extra functions that I found manually. To get the additional functions, I looked up the setup code that my TV uses, which is TV/0156, on the advanced code lists on my site, where there are plenty of UEI originated EFCs along with several user originated EFCs. I tested each of them myself to see which ones work on my TV, the ones that work I included, the ones that don't I didn't. I didn't test the "reset" code and I didn't include it in the Functions list, but I did mention it in the Notes section so that the next user would be aware of it's existance.

Here's the file:

Toshiba-CZ32V51-TV.txt
Toshiba 32" TV - model CZ32V51 - includes all buttons from original remote, plus plenty of additional codes, including all the service menu codes.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I looked up the setup code that my TV uses
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Toshiba 32" TV - model CZ32V51
Robman, I figured you for a plasma or DLP set. Maybe your like me and the toshiba is your smaller set. I'm sure this will help the newbies out. I remember way back when figuring my way through the original Tommy Tyler document. It is understandable why many thought it was to difficult. Once you got started and played around a little bit it wasn't bad but some never got started. Thanks for taking the time.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, nothing that fancy for me, the Tosh is my main set! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, I used word's 'Remove Hidden Data' wizzard on the .doc file, it went from 7.06MB to ~900KB... looking through the result I couldn't find any difference between them, but I might be wrong.
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