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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: Device upgrade not mapping to correct keys |
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I am currently upgrading (downgrading?) my 7562 to a 8550 - Topline 8 and have hit a slight problem.
My upgrade DVD/1001 for my Thomson DVD Player seems to map the wrong functions to the keys.
I have checked and double checked the protocol/EFCs against those of my 7562 - they are identical and work in that remote. Further if there is only the one upgrade in the 8550 then it works fine - all keys mapped correctly.
An example is the PLAY key activated the on screen display, STOP activates the pause function.
Here is a memory dump of the offending config if anyone can shed any light on it.
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Whoops, Link did not work - I just cant get the hang of that either
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gfb107 Expert
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3411 Location: Cary, NC |
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uwereinert Advanced Member
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 153 Location: Chemnitz |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Dave,
do you know about the hidden service menu of the 8550? If you set a device (identical for all 8 device buttons) to setup code 971, you can enter this menu via "Options", once up = "Service". There is an item named "AntiPiracy, set it to off and try your upgrades again.
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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I had read about AP (but did not know what it did) - I heard a reference to selecting it, but not what mode to put it in.
Will try that and let you know later
btw who would want to pirate a remote - or is there some other reason for this 'feature'? |
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | There is an item named "AntiPiracy, set it to off and try your upgrades again.
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Tried that - no joy I am afraid |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21237 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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daveoram wrote: | btw who would want to pirate a remote - or is there some other reason for this 'feature'? |
They are (foolishly) trying to protect themselves from some other remote company who might try to copy the IR database from this remote, one button at a time. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help! |
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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From an earlier post in a different thread
Quote: | johnsfine
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Posted: Wed 24 Dec, 2003 3:45 pm Post subject:
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There are two different versions of protocol 004B. The RDF file tells RM which version your remote has. I think those are correct, but I don't have any good way to test. |
I am wondering if the version in the two remotes is different?
Does anyone have the relevant data for each version I could load into IR to test?
Thanks, Dave |
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gjarboni Expert
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 294 Location: Columbia, MD |
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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daveoram wrote: | Does anyone have the relevant data for each version I could load into IR to test? |
Actually, if you could point us to the KM/RM file you are using then I could make check the signals on a 740 remote (like your topline) and a S3C8 (like the 7560). On this side of the pond, I don't have a topline to test, so I can't work with your config.
Thanks,
Jason M. |
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Jason,
Here is the KM8.12 file I am using on the topline, and here is the one for the 7562.
Thanks |
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gjarboni Expert
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 294 Location: Columbia, MD |
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, I don't see anything obviously wrong. Both the S3C8 and 740 versions do the same thing on my 7800 (S3C8) and 8800. I don't think this matters, but here's the upgrade protocol that I'm pasting in:
Upgrade Protocol 0 = 00 4B (P8/740)
0F 1D 11 80 0C E0 A2 01 10 06 06 03 97 06 E0 4E
14 17 5A 02 6F 5D 4C 00 FF
End
This should be what is in your Topline, but it's worth a shot. Also, I'd try deleting a few buttons to see if that helps. I'll sleep on it and let you know if I come up with anything else.
To save you some time I tried loading the upgrade into KM 5.09 and got the same upgrade. |
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I got the same results with various versins of KM too. Thing is the upgrade works when it is loaded on its own, just flops when part of my overall config.
Having tried some more, I think it may be something else as I currently have a toggle on the AUX1 button for my 2 DVD players - Just checked the other one and that is the same, even if I map it to ther device buttons.
Cant test mush more until I get my laptop to a charging point, but I will keep digging - its got to be something simple. Perhaps I'll learn the codes transmittd by the upgrade and see if there is a pattern to the scrambling
Dave |
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daveoram
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 113 Location: Yorkshire, UK |
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Right, I think I have solved the problem with my Thomson upgrade.
Loaded up RM (First time I have used it), set up the device, punched in the same OBC's, and as I suspected, it must be using the other $004B protocol as the returned EFC's were all different.
Loaded this to my configuration and it worked first time.
Thanks for your help - I am sure I will need more soon, but I promise I will try and solve the problems myself before asking.
Dave |
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