JP1 Remotes

Posted: **Sat May 18, 2013 5:47 am**

I have recently bought a ONE FOR ALL URC 11-2981 R00. There are available for around 10 EUR in Europe and can control up to 8 devices, so apparently quite a bang for the buck.

I used RemoteMaster.v2.02a on the Mac (had to set the port to /dev/tty.SLAB_USBtoUART using a cheap Silabs CP210x-based Serial to USB converter from China). Seems to be communicating properly (JP1.4?). Now we need RDF and MAP files for signature 3293. I deduct this from the fact that when I select "Download from Remote" then I get the error message "No RDF matches signature starting 3293".

I have set the remote to use
TV code 0653 (JVC)
SAT code 1993 (XORO)

I was also able to extract the following raw download:

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ED30:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED40:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED50:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED60:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED70:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED80:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
ED90:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDA0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDB0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDC0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDD0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDE0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EDF0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE00:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE10:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE20:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE30:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE40:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE50:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE60:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE70:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE80:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EE90:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EEA0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EEB0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EEC0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EED0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EEE0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EEF0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF00:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF10:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF20:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF30:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF40:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF50:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF60:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF70:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF80:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EF90:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFA0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFB0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFC0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFD0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFE0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF
EFF0:  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF

Can I get some help please on making RDF and MAP files from this?

There are pictures of this remote:

KalleP wrote:

Posted: **Sat May 18, 2013 12:40 pm**

You can get a head start on the RDF and Map by obtaining the key codes. Do this by making several macros (up to 15 steps) that use every key. You will see the 1 byte code in the raw download. For example if you make a macro with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 and see a new string in the download of 1A, 1B, 1C, etc. then you know those are the codes for those buttons.

Posted: **Sun May 19, 2013 5:24 am**

By creating some macros and comparing the raw downloads, I think I was able to figure out the following:

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[DeviceButtons] 
TV=$03,
VCR=$04,
DVD=$05,
SAT=$06,
AMP=$07,
HI-FI=$08,
DVB-T=$09,
AUX=$0A

[Buttons]
Power=$02,
1=$0B, 
2=$0C, 
3=$0D, 
4=$0E, 
5=$0F, 
6=$10, 
7=$11, 
8=$12, 
9=$13, 
0=$14, 
-/--=$15,
AV=$16, 
Vol+=$17, 
Vol-=$18, 
Mute=$19, 
Ch+=$1A, 
Ch-=$18,
Menu=$1C,
Up=$1D, 
Down=$1E, 
Left=$1F, 
Right=$20, 
OK=$21, 
Rewind=$22,
Play=$23,
Pause=$24,
Ffwd=$25,
Prev=$26,
Stop=$27,
Rec=$28,
Next=$29,
Red=$2A, 
Green=$2B, 
Yellow=$2C, 
Blue=$2D,
Guide=$2E

Posted: **Mon May 20, 2013 9:19 am**

Hopefully someone else will chime in and help you get farther. I'm not that familiar with how JP1.4 RDFs work.

You can download MapThis! and start working on a map though, using the key names you posted and the image you posted. The process is very simple. Just draw a circle on each button and match the name to what you've posted (to match what will be in the RDF).

Posted: **Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:59 am**

Thanks to the great help I received in this forum, I can report that this remote is now functional with IRMaster 2.02a using these files:

http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php ... e_id=11942

Thank you very much!

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:52 am**

On OS X 10.9 this no longer appears to work. I had to rename the libraries from jnilib do dylib, and run the app as root; but the download still fails.

Posted: **Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:04 am**

probono wrote:Thanks to the great help I received in this forum, I can report that this remote is now functional with IRMaster 2.02a using these files:

http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php ... e_id=11942

Thank you very much!

Thank you A LOT for your rdf!!!

I've been able to program my URC 11-2981 R00 with extra cheap USB CP202x interface with RM. My programming box is an atom270 netbook with linux ubuntu (-> no .xls). 2981 is a non learning remote (peraps mine looking at remote chart) so I use an 8910 as learning device. 8910 requires parallel JP1 interface, so I get codes on desktop PC and kick them via LAN to the netbook.

Just for my (and others) memory URC 11-2981 R00 pinout:

Jp1.x pinout is:

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  V+ 1  2 RESET
 GND 3  4 DATA-IN
BKGD 5  6 DATA-OUT

So looking at your remote upsidedown with ir led pointing away from you, you will see Jp1 recess looking like a battery cell with +pole pointing away from you. Pin 1 (look at posted pictures) is lower right:

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  +-+
+-+ +-+
|     |
| 6 5 |
| 4 3 |
| 2 1 |
|     |
+-----+

Now connect:
2 -> RTS
3 -> Ground
4 -> TX
6 -> RX

It looks like a T turned 90° counterclockwise. If it dosen't work try to swap RX and TX (there is a lot of misundersatnding in which is which).

I report Special Pause Protocol works perfectly. As far as I know 2981 lacks of extender so having an option to insert pause in macro is essential. By the way I've tried the "Zenith trick" with no luck (I think Zenith 0039 device is not implemented at all).

My opnion:

Good: cheap (less than 10€), little, lightweight (only 2 AAA cells), 8 devices, fabric & key feeling, easy to learn layout (indeed few keys to learn), pause protocol, ergonomy, big (for me) 4k memory.

Bad: useless (almost) without programming (anyway if you're brave you can program it via keypad...

) because it lacks some essentials keys like back/return, no learning, no extender (as far I searched; -> no macro on device keys for example), number keypad in the lower section not optimal, no backlight (indeed useless in my opinion).

I think this is a perfect remote to use everyday in place of your big and heavy HT touch learning remote. Does almost everything, but more confortably as long as you do simple tasks. Also is a "wife friendly" device and "kid unfriendly" toy

Jp1 are in general optimal because are cheap. This is cheap and easy to find in stores. If you (or your son) broke one (and it's not easy), you can afford two replacements. Backlight, in my opinion, should be unecessary in a everyday remote. You should be able to wiew keys in your mind and select the correct one by touch. With use, this should become automatic. Obviously, in complex HT this is impossible, but in my experience most used functions are selected this way also in most complex setups.

In my setup (very simple in my new living room

) I shifted color keys functions one line down (or I removed if unused) and I set color keys for most used functions, e.g. red=back/return, green=info, yellow=aspect, blue=prev. Remember that color keys are easyer to spot in the darkness...

Lacking of macro specific keys and extender to move macro to device keys, I use 3 shifted keys:
S+Power -> set TV in Air mode and turn off all devices
S+-/-- -> Turn on TV (discrete pw on), wait (tnks to pause protocol!), turn on Air mode
S+AV -> Turn on TV (discrete pw on), toggle pw on mediaplayer (no discrete aviable

), wait, put tv on HDM1 (discrete), put remote on vcr with punch through.

Bye

Posted: **Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:10 am**

After the venerable URC11-2981 R00 has died, I thought I was lucky because I could still purchase the same URC11-2981 in the same shop a couple of years later, and would be able to transfer over my programming. However, turns out that what looks identical from the outside is now the URC11-2981 R01 and I am getting

The signature of the attached remote does not match the signature you are trying to upload. The image you are trying to upload may not be compatible with attached remote, and uploading it may damage the remote. Copying the contents of one remote to another is only safe when the remotes are identical. This message will be displayed when installing an extender in your remote, which is the only time it is safe to upload to a remote when the signatures do not match. How would you like to proceed? Cancel the upload | Upload to the remote

I tried "Upload to the remote" anyway and I got "writeRemote returned -1".

How can I transfer over my programming?

The new remote has the following raw download:

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EC00:  A0  5F  00  0E  13  FF  00  00  0A  1E  0A  08  03  FF  FF  FF
EC10:  00  10  00  FF  03  00  00  02  2C  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC20:  00  10  00  FF  04  00  01  00  51  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC30:  00  10  00  FF  05  00  01  02  15  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC40:  00  10  00  FF  06  00  02  03  4F  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC50:  00  10  00  FF  07  00  03  00  B0  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC60:  00  10  00  FF  08  00  03  04  86  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC70:  00  10  00  FF  09  00  02  04  4C  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF
EC80:  00  10  00  FF  0A  00  02  04  F8  FF  00  00  00  FF  FF  FF

JP1 Remotes

URC 11-2981 R00 (Sig 3293) RDF and MAP needed

URC 11-2981 R00 (Sig 3293) RDF and MAP needed