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Marcdehaas



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanrichey wrote:
Here is an ICT file that learns 4 of the buttons (Power, Zero, Blue, Channel Up), each repeated 4 times. If you can figure out the underlying pattern I can do the whole lot for you.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=11195

Al


sorry but im a newbie at this...how can i install this .ict file? i can not add it somewhere when im using the setup...

or s this .ict file not for me?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcdehaas,
The ict file isn't for you. We will use it to decode the pattern of bits in the signal, and then we can make a bin file.

Alan,
These learns look good. I do need to check my work, and I hope to have an executor tomorrow night. It looks like this protocol is very similar to CanalSat, but has a 6 bit OBC with a trailing check bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This file works great on VIP 1903 so I assume will work on 1853 as well

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=11148
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vickyg2003 wrote:
I corrected the link to this.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10778
That is where alan posted asking for a decode and provided IR learns.

Vicky,
Many of the learns in this link decode as Zaptor-56, while others aren't decoded. I think it is safe to presume that Zaptor is the correct protocol, but as sometimes happens, the original learns that Logitech is (was) using weren't very well done.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an upgrade for the VIP1853, tested on a RCA RCRP05B, which seems to decode to the same signals as learned by Alan.

Here's the entry for protocols.ini.
Code:
[CanalSatLD]
PID=01 FF
DevParms=Device:7=37,Sub Device:6=0
DeviceTranslator=Translator(0,7,1) Translator(1,6,8) Translator(1,6,16)
CmdParms=OBC:6=0
CmdTranslator=Translator(0,6,0) Translator(comp,0,1,6,0)
FixedData=A5 00 02
Code.S3C80=2D 5E 31 8B 0F 8F 80 10 08 07 00 A0 00 92 00 A0 00 92 A6 04 00 10 68 05 E4 06 05 F6 01 46 F6 01 0A FB 08 46 29 01 69 04 8D 01 46 AF
The IRP is {56k,320,msb}<-1,1|1,-1>(T=0,(1,-1,D:7,S:6,T:1,0:1,F:6,~F:1,-85m,T=1)+)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping that someone will turn the above upgrade into a Slingbox bin file. I don't know how to do it.

BTW, the Kreatel 1760 seems to also use this same IR protocol and OBCs.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3FG wrote:
I'm hoping that someone will turn the above upgrade into a Slingbox bin file. I don't know how to do it.


Hi Dave, don't you ever sleep?

Creating BINs is pretty easy, even I can do it. Rolling Eyes Laughing I don't like making the protocol.ini changes though. I know this is just a matter of cut and paste, but then I have a non-standard protocol.ini and I can't diagnose problems.

Here are the RM steps:
1) In RM, change the remote to the desired Slingbox model
2) Check key assignment ( this is the part that is difficult for me)
3) Then from the Advanced menu select "Export Binary Upgrade"
4) Repeat for all the desired remotes. (usually RV and PL are required)

Then zip them together and upload to the slingbox bin area.

There is a sizelimit, so if a big protocol is involved we often need to write a special no frills option in order to get the bin small enough. There are also special repeat considerations, because there is no ability to hold a key.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do it, but I need to know the OBC values for each button, so if someone could either provide them or explain to me how to extract then from the ICT file I will get on with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the OBCs. Vicky, would the upgrade have been easier for you to use if it were described as Manual Settings? The issue I have with that is our most popular protocol is Manual Setttings, and it isn't very descriptive or useful for future use, once we do have DecodeIR decoding it.


0 10
1 1
2 2
3 3
4 4
5 5
6 6
7 7
8 8
9 9
vol up 23
vol down 26
mute 24
channel up 25
channel down 28
power 11
last (prev ch) 19
Exit 19
menu 45
program guide 22
up arrow 12
down arrow 13
left arrow 14
right arrow 16
select 15
play 27
pause 27
rewind 33
fast fwd 36
stop 34
record 35
red 29
blue 32
green 30
yellow 31
Radio 43
TeleText 41
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, forgot to ask for Device/SubDevice as well ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Device 37, subdevice 0
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, here is the Custom Remote for marcdehass to test:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=11201

Fingers crossed Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its works!!!!!

still have not tried it at my friend's in China but here in Holland it works perfect!

i shall let you ppl know when things work in china too

many many thanks so far!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will Very Happy That remote BIN file is actually downloaded to the Slingbox itself, and EVERY viewing system (Laptop, PC, Mobile, Slingcatcher...) uses the same codes. So if it works on one it works on all.

My thanks to everyone involved in getting this remote to work.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a little bit late this reaction but in China we can use the remote too!

so again thanks very much!
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