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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Boet,
Using device 18, with the dev flip box checked, and OBC=14, the output waveform is nearly identical to the Pronto Hex from the PCF file. The only difference is that our executor sends an on time of 17uSec rather than 9uS that is indicated in the PCF file.
So please try device 18, with the dev flip box checked, and OBC=14, again.
The on duration difference is probably not important, and since UEI has lots of remotes in the field with setup codes for Barco projectors (using brands in the Lookup Tool), I'm inclined to believe our executor "should" work.
To try cauer29's good idea, make sure that IR thinks it is using a learning remote. File\New and choose, say, the RS 15-135. |
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Boet
Joined: 13 Aug 2011 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks 3FG! Your modified protocols.ini, device 18, dev flip box checked and OBC=14 did the job! I can now turn the projector on and off using the remote!
Now RM IR also generated the same EFC as IRTool decoded from the HEX codes.
Now let's try the other commands. I will keep you informed.
Also thanks to everyone else for all suggestions!
Last edited by Boet on Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Vicky,
The dev flip check box is actually setting a flag (bit 0 of the fixed data), which seems to set up a toggle. If the box is unchecked, the remote will perform some kind of toggling behavior. Device 18 will be sent on the next repeat as device 12. In Rob's file, device 23 is followed by device 9.
That appears to be caused by XORing the device data (at the executor level after the bits have been complemented and reversed) with 0x78. I think it continues to toggle, but since I don't have a widget, I'm just inferring that because the remote stops recording more data.
Could you use your Widget to verify that the signal continues to toggle the device number?
Thanks. |
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cauer29
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 236
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Boet wrote: | How do I paste learned signals into IR? All buttons in the "Learned Signals" tab are always grey. |
Sorry, I didn't know that the 3940 wasn't a learning remote, as I don't have an RDF for that remote. Some remotes even if they can't learn, can still send learned codes that you paste into IR, but I have no idea on the 3940.
Anyway, glad to hear that you got it working.
A.A. |
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Boet
Joined: 13 Aug 2011 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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So far, the power button, exit button, enter button, arrow keys and adjust button are working.
The only thing is, when I press the adjust button, it seems as if the remote sends the Adjust-command twice (not sure).
When Adjust is pressed on the projector itself, I first get an 'input selection' screen and when I press the Adjust button for a second time, the projector enters 'configuration mode'.
However, when I press Adjust on the remote only once, it directly enters 'configuration mode'.
Maybe it's the way Barco meant it to be, but could you check the Adjust signal to make sure this isn't wrong?
OBC 009 EFC 049
As soon as I got the whole thing working, I will share my .rmdu file with you all.
@cauer29
No problem. Thanks for your help. |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Boet wrote: | The only thing is, when I press the adjust button, it seems as if the remote sends the Adjust-command twice (not sure).
When Adjust is pressed on the projector itself, I first get an 'input selection' screen and when I press the Adjust button for a second time, the projector enters 'configuration mode'.
However, when I press Adjust on the remote only once, it directly enters 'configuration mode'.
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This may be a repeat issue with the executor. Not a big deal, we can tweak the protocol to decrease the number of repeats you get. I'll look at this with the widget tomorrow. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Boet
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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All right, thanks! So far I only got this with the Adjust button, the other keys (arrows, power, enter and exit) are working flawlessly. |
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Boet,
I'd like you to try an upgrade with dev flip checked and unchecked, using both device 18 and 12, comparing the behavior of Adjust versus, say, the arrow keys.
Dev flip isn't very descriptive--the action is really a kind of toggle effect, and the projector may be using toggles to control the repeating behavior. Or not. |
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Boet
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I will try tomorrow. Time to get some sleep over here now (01.11 AM).
What change in behaviour could I expect / should I keep an eye open for? |
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Look for whether each of the 4 conditions control the projector, and if any have different repeat behavior. |
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Boet
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I've just read in the projector's manual, it's normal for the Adjust button on the remote to display the configuration menu (how could they?).
If still of any need, I will also try the dev flip and device 12/18 today. |
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I would appreciate it if you can tell me which of the 4 configurations can control the projector. I realize that probably won't help you, but we don't know much about the Barco protocol, and this experiment may help us understand it better.
Thanks! |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Hey 3fg. I seem to be having more trouble than the OP with this protocol.
I copied this into protocols.ini
Code: | [Barco]
PID=00 2A
DevParms=Device:5=0, dev flip:bool
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,5,0) Translator(1,1,7)
FixedData=08
CmdParms=OBC:6=0
CmdTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,6,0)
Code.S3C80=00 00 11 8B 14 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 05 00 19 00 05 00 4B F9 6A 00 05 00 7D 76 03 01 EB 03 46 2B 01 8D 01 49
Code.740=00 00 11 80 0F E0 D0 40 03 05 07 01 09 01 2B 01 18 03 01 50 A5 5D 85 5F 49 78 07 5D 02 85 5D 22 00 A5 73 22 37 3C 02 5B A2 47 A0 A7 22 44 22 06 90 ED 60
Code.6805-C9=00 00 11 20 0F E0 D0 40 07 05 07 01 07 01 2B 01 18 07 01 53 B6 5A B7 5C A8 78 00 5A 02 B7 5A CD 01 83 CD 01 B2 A6 02 B7 58 A6 AD AE 78 CD 01 9E CD 01 8C 24 EA 81
Code.6805-RC16/18=00 00 11 20 12 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 02 17 00 02 30 7C BF 00 00 02 49 00 5A 02 10_7E CC 01 B2
Code.HCS08=20 17 00 00 11 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 04 00 2D 00 04 00 5F F9 7E 00 04 00 91 00 60 02 10 A5 CC FF 5C |
I then inserted this into a Comcast 1067Bx3 JP1.3 remote and I'm getting a signal that looks absoutely nothing like the Barco. I'm uncertain as to what is remote BOET is using. I thought he was using the 15-135 which was a JP1.3 remote. I think perhaps that Boet is shooting the learns instead of an upgrade, or otherwise I've gone nuts. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I also tried this on my comcast 1067 and got the same unknown protocol as I was getting with the JP1.3 variety. So I went to the lookup tool and found a remote that has a "Barco1" remote built. I tried TV/0078 and got something that sorta looked like the barco, but didn't decode as the "002A". So bottom line the new [barco] entry has the wrong protocol.ini because it the executor doesn't give a good signal. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Vicky,
I'm not sure what is going on. I've loaded upgrades using the [Barco] entry into the Comcast 1067Bx3 and the RCA RCRP05B, and they both shoot signals which decode as 00 2A. My 15-135 has Barco2 built in, and it decodes as 002A. The only difference between Barco1 and Barco2 is whether the signals are toggled.
I have since changed the name on the toggle box to "Use toggle", but the rest of the entry is the same.
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[Barco]
PID=00 2A
DevParms=Device:5=0, Use toggle:bool
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,5,0) Translator(comp,1,1,7)
FixedData=08
CmdParms=OBC:6=0
CmdTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,6,0)
Code.S3C80=00 00 11 8B 14 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 05 00 19 00 05 00 4B F9 6A 00 05 00 7D 76 03 01 EB 03 46 2B 01 8D 01 49
Code.740=00 00 11 80 0F E0 D0 40 03 05 07 01 09 01 2B 01 18 03 01 50 A5 5D 85 5F 49 78 07 5D 02 85 5D 22 00 A5 73 22 37 3C 02 5B A2 47 A0 A7 22 44 22 06 90 ED 60
Code.6805-C9=00 00 11 20 0F E0 D0 40 07 05 07 01 07 01 2B 01 18 07 01 53 B6 5A B7 5C A8 78 00 5A 02 B7 5A CD 01 83 CD 01 B2 A6 02 B7 58 A6 AD AE 78 CD 01 9E CD 01 8C 24 EA 81
Code.6805-RC16/18=00 00 11 20 12 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 02 17 00 02 30 7C BF 00 00 02 49 00 5A 02 10_7E CC 01 B2
Code.HCS08=20 17 00 00 11 85 E5 80 00 05 06 00 04 00 2D 00 04 00 5F F9 7E 00 04 00 91 00 60 02 10 A5 CC FF 5C |
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