JP1 Remotes

[Mulch]

Howdy,
I just started looking at the URC8800 extender 2a. I'm having a problem getting it to work with the Learning keys 1-6.

I programmed an 8811 to teach the keys 1-6 in cable mode to the 8800. That seemed to work fine.

I then uploaded the extender, 1 amp device, and six key moves for the amp 1L-6L. I of course then started the 8800 extender.

The problem is that when I switch to AMP and try 1L-6L I get them to send a signal, just not the right ones. I set the key moves to correspond to AMP number buttons 1 through 6. It should send 1L=1, 2L=2, etc. But 1L sends 1, 2L sends 3, 3L=4, 4L=5, 5L=6 and 6L=6.

I don't understand. I reset the 8800 and relearned the keys many times thinking I got them out of order or something.

Using the 8811, I captured what the 8800 was sending for the cable keys 1L-6L. They show:
1L=+20 -110364 +20 -65502 +20 -131070
2L=+20 -110364 +20 -65502 +20 -131070
3L=+20 -110362 +20 -65502 +20 -131070
4L=+20 -110360 +20 -65502 +20 -131070
5L=+20 -110360 +20 -65502 +20 -131070
6L=+20 -110358 +20 -65502 +20 -131070

Which all look fine as far as I can tell. And obviously it must be okay since 1L does work correctly.

I'm using the exact RDF file that came in the 8780 8800 9800 extender v2a.zip file. I even currently have it in the RDF directory without any other 8800 file and I renamed this one to HUD0HUD0 (URC8780_8800_9800 Producer 8).rdf just to be sure that's all it was using.

That's it. I haven't done anything else to the remote. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Curtis

[gjarboni]

I think you're the first person to try this and post about it (obviously it works for me). The way this works is somewhat kludgy, basically the main processor is "waiting" (i.e. counting how much time elapses) between signals from the learning MCU's to the main MCU. Measuring this time allows the extender to tell what key was pressed.

What you're seeing is that the keys are off by a bit. My first guess is that the learning memory already had something in it and that is adding an extra delay. Could you try clearing the learning memory (instructions below) followed by re-learning the signal to 1L through 6L in Cable mode:

1) Hold down Setup key
2) When you see "Timed Seq" on the menu, press the up arrow until you see "Configure"
3) Press "Select"
4) Press the up arrow twice to get to "IR Learner"
5) Press the down arrow to get to "IR Clear"
6) Press the down arrow twice to get to "All" (not All/mode)
7) Press Select
8) "Confirm" Press Select again

You'll know this worked if the LED flashes twice.

Let us know how it goes.

Jason M.

[Mulch]

Well I had originally been trying a full Service Reset each time to be sure everything was cleared out, but I did try your suggestion of just clearing the Learned area. Unfortunately that didn't help.

I went ahead and blew away my other 8800 and tried this on it just in case the other remote was having a learning problem. This one acted basically the same way.

So could it be the way I'm trying to teach it the learning commands? As mentioned in my other post it would appear the code itself is fine. Could it be the time I hold the keys, or time between learning 1L, then 2L, etc.? Could it be the 8811 teaching it as opposed to other remotes like a 2104?

How about 8800 version issues? Mine are both marked 8800B01 on the back.

Let me know what else I can try.
Thanks,
Curtis

[gjarboni]

[Mulch]

Okay that worked. I thought the +20 -110364 +20 etc. that I was getting might be the problem. I now get +446 -416 +446 -130624 which is close enough to the +600 -600 +600 -100000 to work.

I can't get that upgrade to work for the 8811 either. Many moons ago before I had another 8800 I had taught the 8811 your MiscAudio2002 signal from my original 8800 to then relearn back to the 8800's L1-L6. Obviously that previous step didn't work and I've been using the messed up signal since. Using the 8800 to teach the other worked fine. I should have thought of that. D'oh.

And now I've got the 8811 learned with the correct signal.

Thanks.
Curtis

[gjarboni]