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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've created a PB file here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9259
and here's the protocol code:
Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 1C (S3C8+) Denon modified (PB v4.02)
3D 92 11 8B 16 49 05 08 00 84 01 75 00 84 03 87
83 C2 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 5F A0 0C 05 76 03 01
6B 0D E4 25 1C E4 26 1D 0C 03 09 12 E6 24 02 18
03 90 C1 0A FC 19 05 F6 FF 57 F6 01 0A FB 09 F6
FF 57 F6 01 0A 7B F8 AF 6C 05 F6 FF 57 C6 F8 FF
FF F6 01 58 6A F4 AF 60 04 60 05 F6 01 46 60 04
60 05 F6 01 46 AF
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This is very experimental, so it might take some testing to get it to work right. _________________ Rob
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ledan
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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It works !
I'll have fun playing with that
Thanks |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Cool! If you have to tweak it to get it just right, let me know. _________________ Rob
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Will this file work with Denon-K protocol? I tried it with no apparent effect, but I don't really know what I am doing. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:52 am Post subject: |
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This is a customized version of the regular Denon protocol, so it would only work as a replacement for the same. do you have the same issues as the OP only with a Denon-K upgrade?
If so, please describe what is happening for you and what you would like to see happen differently? _________________ Rob
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:45 am Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | This is a customized version of the regular Denon protocol, so it would only work as a replacement for the same. do you have the same issues as the OP only with a Denon-K upgrade?
If so, please describe what is happening for you and what you would like to see happen differently? |
Yes, exactly. My upgrade uses Denon-K. I want to slow down volume change when holding down volume. A single tap changes 0.5, which is fine. But holding it down is ridiculously fast. It jumps at least 15 or 20 before I can let go.
I am unable to make any adjustments between 0.5 and 15 except with multiple taps. Holding down is difficult to time because first I have to wait for a short delay before the repeat even begins, then it suddenly jumps too much before I can react.
I think I want your Denon changes applied to Denon-K. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have tried to replicate what I did 10 years ago for the regular Denon protocol here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26224
The way I build upgrades using a custom executor is to start with KM using "Manual Settings" selected as the protocol and then cut/paste the protocol from PB into the Notes box in KM. Then you can save it as an RMDU file and continue working with it in RM.
Do you know enough about PB and KM to do this? _________________ Rob
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | I have tried to replicate what I did 10 years ago for the regular Denon protocol here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26224
The way I build upgrades using a custom executor is to start with KM using "Manual Settings" selected as the protocol and then cut/paste the protocol from PB into the Notes box in KM. Then you can save it as an RMDU file and continue working with it in RM.
Do you know enough about PB and KM to do this? |
No, I don't. But I will give it a try and see if I can figure it out. Thank you. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Then post the upgrade that you're using and I'll pull it together. _________________ Rob
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: |
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There is a way to use custom protocols in RM but I've never been able to figure out how to do it, so I just start them using KM. _________________ Rob
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I've created an RMDU file for you here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26226
If I need to make tweaks to the executor code, I'll post a new executor like the one below, then the way you update the RMDU file, using RM, is like this:
1. First "copy" the executor code (which is red in the example below)
2. Select the Advanced menu item
3. Select Edit Protocol
4. In the Protocol Editor pop-up, select the Hex Code tab
5. Double click on the S3C80, Protocol Code cell
6. Highlight the code and "paste" the new code on top of it, click OK
Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 CD (S3C8+) Denon-K custom (PB v4.02)
45 91 32 8B 12 8F 44 08 08 00 DA 00 C6 00 DA 02
7B 90 C9 06 D0 03 54 E4 05 08 B4 06 08 B4 07 08
20 11 F6 01 46 F6 01 0A 7B F8 AF 6C 05 F6 01 46
C6 F8 FF FF F6 01 58 6A F4 AF
End _________________ Rob
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I encountered problems and it does not work. Not sure what to do. I loaded your file in Device Upgrade Editor and it said:
Protocol is a manual protocol. Its PID may be changed by setting an Alternate PID.
Protocol ID already used in another device upgrade by a different protocol. An Alternate PID is required.
So, I entered an alternate pid of 00 CE, and the error went away. Then I saved everything and uploaded to my remote. It does not control the receiver at all. Remote lights flash but the receiver does nothing. Did I do something wrong?
Then I tried to open the Device Upgrade Editor a second time, it would not open and said:
The code of the protocol for this device upgrade is not consistent with the protocol default parameters, so the device upgrade cannot be edited. You need to edit the protocol code to correct this, before you can edit the device upgrade.
Please advise what to do next. |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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You probably didn't do anything wrong, it's probably my code that doesn't work, as I don't really recall what I did 10 years ago. The thing is, for me to try and test this to get it working would require a lot of work and I really don't have the time to dig into it that deep.
As you don't have Excel you can't try modifying it yourself using PB, but you could try using RMPB. I can't offer any advice on using it as I never have, but if you're willing to learn, you could try. _________________ Rob
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | You probably didn't do anything wrong, it's probably my code that doesn't work, as I don't really recall what I did 10 years ago. The thing is, for me to try and test this to get it working would require a lot of work and I really don't have the time to dig into it that deep.
As you don't have Excel you can't try modifying it yourself using PB, but you could try using RMPB. I can't offer any advice on using it as I never have, but if you're willing to learn, you could try. |
Thanks for your help Rob. I'll see what I can do, but I suspect I may just give up as this seems way too complicated for me. The problem in this thread sounded exactly the same as mine, and appeared to have been solved, so I had hoped I could just reuse the same solution. I am not surprised it is not that easy. |
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