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ElizabethD Advanced Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: Sangean HDT-1X digital radio |
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I have this Sangean digital audio receiver. I've never been able to make discrete power and others work in extender. Even from the keyboard Power might or might not power it off. I have to hold the Power button a good bit of time (5 LI/LO repeats, maybe more). I really would like to make it work after all these years since I want to put into the macros.
So I thought I'll go into PB and edit repeats from blank to a number. But the executor is not changing. I never figured out HOW to do this simple thing in PB. Please help. And please tell me HOW to do this sort of thing so the assembler takes the values I put in.
Current RM executor:
Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 5E (S3C80) Aiwa (RM v2.00-preview7)
3D 91 21 8B 13 E6 44 08 08 01 12 03 3C 01 12 01
0B D2 37 11 7E 08 C3 05 08 04 37 01 06 F6 01 46
E6 28 C0 46 29 01 8D 01 46
End
I don't know why it says S3C80, because KM says S3C8+ and it's, at this point, with a 6131 upgrade. _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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mr_d_p_gumby Expert
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 1370 Location: Newbury Park, CA |
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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This executor as-is does not have a repeat count; it has to be modified to have one, so it's alitte more complicated than normal. Try this:Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 5E (S3C8+) PB v4.02
3D 91 21 8B 14 E6 44 08 08 01 12 03 3C 01 12 01
0B D2 37 11 7E 08 C3 05 05 08 04 37 01 06 F6 01
46 E6 28 C0 46 29 01 8D 01 46
End The repeat count is highlighted in red.
Which Sangean model do you have? _________________ Mike England |
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Mike, Thanks.
Tuner is HD-1X. My old KM file:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4941
Your version, in a macro still puts out one ditto.
Short tap, 1-2 dittos. Only when I hold forever I get the repeats. _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21211 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Try this protocol. If it works, you should get long presses when a function is called from a macro, and normals presses otherwise. Increase the red 05 for longer presses.
Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 5E (S3C8+) Aiwa Custom (PB v4.02)
3D 91 21 8B 13 E6 44 08 08 01 12 03 3C 01 12 01
0B D2 37 11 7E 08 C3 05 08 04 68 0D 37 01 06 F6
01 46 E6 28 C0 46 29 01 37 62 03 E6 0D 05 8D 01
46
End _________________ Rob
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Rob.
Still no luck. It looks like it's resisting the repeats. 1 ditto frame. I must be doing something wrong
I collected OEM signals to compare with manual and macro via 6131ext. In case there's something you might see in this widget .rtf
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9027 _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21211 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Can you test it without using the extender? My code assumes that the #repeats (ie, R0D) will be set to 2 when the command is called from a macro. This might not be the case with an extender, and if that's true, I will need to think of an alternative way to identify that the function needs long repeats.
The following code should give you repeats for all buttons, regardless of whether it's in a macro or not.
Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 5E (S3C8+) Aiwa Custom (PB v4.02)
3D 91 21 8B 13 E6 44 08 08 01 12 03 3C 01 12 01
0B D2 37 11 7E 08 C3 05 08 04 68 0D 37 01 06 F6
01 46 E6 28 C0 46 29 01 E6 0D 05 8D 01
46
End _________________ Rob
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the late reaction - few family obligations got in the way of fun.
I think I'm barking up a wrong tree. That said, here's the situation:
I did 981 reset, downloaded the image, edited 2 upgrades in KM to NOT use the extender, pushed them into IR. Standard, untouched protocol issues 3 Aiwa reps (3 dittos). Sangean box did not respond. But if I press Power forever it responds when I release the button - I've seen that under extension as well. But it does not behave like that 100% of time. I thought it might be on alternating Power press, but that, too, is not 100% reliable.
Then I pushed your last protocol, the one with R0D code. It issues 11 dittos - I changed 5 to 10, 'cause 5 did nothing. It appears more reliable - I managed to turn it on and issue other commands from a macro. So far it worked 6 times, failed twice. Manual Power off worked only when I held it long. Summary from IRscope:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9028
I will, later on, push this protocol into an extended 6131 and will report back. We're closer but this is still a puzzling behavior. _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Liz could you capture and post a signal from you OEM remote too?
Edit: oops never mind, I asked before I downloaded. I see that you already got the OEM signals. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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So Liz the OEM looks very close to the 6131. There is a slight difference in the frequency and the lead-in time could be adjusted a little.
Does the Sangean react better to the OEM remote? _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Vicky, in the earlier file in this thread I just had IRscope Power. This file has all codes gathered in 2007 by 8910
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9029
as now interpreted by the current DecodeIR, in case you want it.
I think the Sangean box is loony _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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ElizabethD wrote: |
I think the Sangean box is loony |
That might be the case, or it may just be really picky. Does it react better to its own remote?
If so we could tweak the frequency and that one lead in time, but if it doesn't react better to the OEM signal, there is no point to that exercise. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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3FG Expert
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3365
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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This thread seems to have some potentially useful details. |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21211 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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3FG wrote: | This thread seems to have some potentially useful details. |
Interesting to hear that a Sangean employee was having the same problem. The reason that the codes that Kupakai posted didn't work for the long press was because they were formatted normally and therefor would only repeat if the button was held. To make the pronto hex send a long press every time, the repeating portion would be needed to be hard coded into the "one time only" portion. _________________ Rob
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Sangean HD1 and my HD-1x use Aiwa protocol. Yet the AVS thread talks about NEC1. Go figure. And yes, they do have various LKPs built in, usually 2-3 seconds. Setting presets is just one of them.
No news on my end yet. Things are a bit better but still not good. I'm thinking of doing a reset from the front panel because the box keeps getting stuck and not accepting commands. _________________ Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride |
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ElizabethD Advanced Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: |
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vickyg2003 wrote: | Does the Sangean react better to the OEM remote? | Not sure at this point. I will try to find a new battery and keep you posted. I think it always did work from OEM, but now everything seems flaky. _________________ Liz
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