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radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

I'm trying to learn codes from the Onkyo remote (RC-479S); home theatre system Onkyo HT-R8230.

An upgrade was provided by OFA tech support about one year ago. When I learn the keys from the OEM remote, the IR.exe result consists of a vast majority of raw signal information. I'm using RM to enter the OBC codes but raw data does not provide this information; what do I do?..... * I read the help file for RM and am able to import the raw data from IR into RM.* but, not able to map URC-9910's play, pause, rew, fwd, stop, rec, f.fwd and f.rew buttons during a learn; although it says success.

In advance, thanks for your valuable support and time.
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greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Did you try any of the existing Onkyo upgrades or know Onkyo setup codes in that remote? You might be having learn issues due to weak batteries, spacing between remotes, etc.

jeff

The Robman · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject:

Post a copy of your IR file.
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radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

File's uploaded. http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6449

Onkyo_SuperMaster_OCAP.rmdu at File Section works but lacks a few keys that are on the Onkyo RC-479S and has excessive keys. Perhaps they're only renamed.

I'm trying to decipher why several keys in my RM file worksheet had *'s and Onkyo_SuperMaster_OCAP.rmdu does not; any leads? I understand that keys associated with *s are key moves.
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The Robman · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:11 am Post subject:

Most of those learns are garbage. Here's a description of the correct learning procedure:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3943
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radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

I've uploaded 2 files (reference links below). Although the OEM keys learned successful (IR file).. exporting from RM to IR was not successful as the device setup codes changed (from 1320 rcvr/amp to 1023 amp) and would not power on.

I'm not certain which NEC protocol to use in RM and whether or not to export the protocol data from RM to IR (as "required" is not in red). Before importing protocol data from RM to IR, should I delete current protocol data in IR first?

As always, any and all help is highly appreciated.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6451

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6450
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johnsfine · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject:

You have the typical Onkyo issue that most signals are NEC1, but some are NEC2 and probably the VOL signals only work well as NEC2. I think most of the signals work well even if you get the NEC1 / NEC2 decision wrong.

There is specific support for Onkyo in some protocol executor. But looking at RM just now, I couldn't figure it out myself.

Maybe simply using NEC2, as you already did, will work well.

You do not need to export the protocol data from RM to IR.

radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

Try THIS. You WILL have to paste in the protocol this time. Delete your learns to test it. Since you had 2 protocols (NEC1 and NEC2), device 210, and 2 subdevices (109 and 108), I used the NEC 2DEV Combo which could handle all those combinations.

I also added discrete on and off to this upgrade. I'm not certain they will work. If the power button doesn't work, try putting the discrete on function on the power button instead. It's the same code as the one you learned.

radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

When you make your own upgrades the setup code is completely arbitrary. It can be anything so long as RM matches the device in IR. When you add a device upgrade to IR and paste it in, the device type and setup is filled in automatically from the info in RM. You must then use the same device type and setup code for the device button on the general tab in IR.

I don't quite follow what you're saying about power and 1023, but I assume that's the setup code you got from tech support. That's perfectly fine. You can change the setup code to 1023 in RM if you like, and make the device button in IR match.

I got the discretes from another upgrade, so someone else figured those out, possibly by trial and error. Remotecentral.com has a big list of discrete codes as well.

If my discrete on is truly a toggle, rename it in RM to reflect it's true function. The correct discrete on (which we apparently don't know) will just turn you device on.

So to recap, my upgrade works except what I've labeled discrete on is actually a power toggle. How about the power function, what does it do? Test on, off and power and let me know what EFC does what so the upgrade can be corrected.

radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY

The Robman · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:35 am Post subject:

If the code labeled as "discrete on" is really a toggle, that means you don't have a discrete on code. Does the "power" button use a different code than this one?

In macros, you would almost always want to use discrete codes if you have them.
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radunn · Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Troy, NY