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Looking for discretes for Panasonic plasma TV

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:55 am
by clara1994
Hello,

I would like to try some of the discrete codes in the file section with my Pronto. So far I just learned the codes from the original remotes into the Pronto.

There I have two questions:

1.
How do I get the codes from here, that is RMDU or text - format (eg codes given in OBC, main and sub device number, protocol, ... ) in a pronto remote code format?

2.
I have loaded some device upgrade files with RM and I always get errors. For example "The upgrade file you are loading is for the remote URC 7560 OFA".... Since I dont have such a remote, is there a way to use these codes anyway in my Pronto ? eg by just copying somehow the data such as EFC?


(Sorry if this has been answered before, but I did not find any thread that explains how to do this.)

Many thanks

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:07 am
by underquark
There're threads aplenty on this forum. Look for a program called "MakeHex"; you can use it to generate a range of Pronto codes and then select the ones you want. Then use the Philips software appropriate to your Pronto.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:51 am
by vickyg2003

Re: How to get codes from here to Philips Pronto

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:32 am
by johnsfine
clara1994 wrote: codes given in OBC, main and sub device number, protocol
OBC in the JP1 world is the same thing as "function" number in MakeHex and related programs. With protocol, device and subdevice MakeHex can generate a full set of signals. Use the function numbers to select the ones you want from that set.
Since I dont have such a remote, is there a way to use these codes anyway in my Pronto ? eg by just copying somehow the data such as EFC?
You don't need to have the right model remote in order to look at the setup and functions sheet of RM and see protocol, device, subdevice and OBC. Forget about EFC, it is just for OFA and related remotes, not for Prontos etc.

If you want a few functions in Pronto Hex from one set of protocol, device and subdevice you can pull the Makehex output from the generated .hex file with a text editor.

If you want many functions in Pronto Hex from one set of protocol, device and subdevice you should use either IrPanels or Hex2ccf to convert the .hex file generated by MakeHex into a ccf file with 256 numbered buttons (numbered with OBC number of each signal). Then merge that ccf into your own config and test the numbered buttons and then alias proper buttons to them.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:21 am
by clara1994
Thank you so much.

I tried all codes to find the dicrete input of my Panasonic PV500E.

But non worked. To be sure that the parameters are correct I tried the aspect code OBC 222. That was OK.

So I guess there is no discrete code for my Panasonic.

But at least I have an idea now on how to convert codes.

Thanks again for the quick help!

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:51 am
by johnsfine
Panasonic usually makes that harder. A few of the signals, such as discrete input select, are often in a different subdevice from the bulk of the codes.

What is the protocol, device, and subdevice you used? Maybe someone already discovered the subdevice and OBC for discrete input select for related models.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:19 am
by clara1994
I learned several buttons.

Protocol is always Panasonic with device 128

Subdevice is 0 or 4

Therefore I thought the codes I found :176, 177, 124,125 would work on Subdevice 4 - but no luck!

Probably there is no descrete code after all?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:38 am
by The Robman
clara1994 wrote:Protocol is always Panasonic with device 128
That tells us that your "Panasonic PV500E" is a TV set, did you look at the upgrades for other Panasonic TV sets?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:58 pm
by clara1994
Yes this is what I have done, these discrete codes are from the files I found.

Unfortunately, but they dont work for my Plasma TV

I guess I just have to try all 255 codes when I have time....

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:18 pm
by underquark
Panasonics commonly use 128, subdevice 0 for the basic TV functions and subdevices 2, 4 or 9 for other functions. You can get an idea from the various upgrades in the File Section. My Panasonic TV doesn't have discrete on/off or inputs or anything.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:43 pm
by clara1994
To simplify the search for codes...

is there an easier way than programming the remote with a set of about 15 codes and then try them?

eg. can one have the remote try codes from x to y automatically, similar to the search for the power button?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:31 pm
by The Robman
If discretes exist, I expect they'll use the same OBCs as other Panasonic devices, so before trying all 256 OBCs for a particular sub-device, I would recommend trying the known ON/OFF OBCs under different sub-device codes.

To answer your other question, the easiest way to test for discretes is to create dummy upgrades with the test codes assigned to buttons, there is no other easier way.