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Evan_s
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I'm waiting to see what fun you guys come up with for those remotes once you get your hands on them. One of those bad boys with an extender could be amazing. |
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unclemiltie
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| Evan_s wrote: |
I'm waiting to see what fun you guys come up with for those remotes once you get your hands on them. One of those bad boys with an extender could be amazing. |
Depends...
There are few things that the extenders do that couldn't be done with a well though out, computer connected remote couldn't do out of the box. One of the benefits that we have as extender writers is that we KNOW that the user is going to program the remote via a computer and not have to deal with all of the comlexity through a keypad.
What does an extender give you:
1: expanded memory by taking over learning and disabling it
2: things like LDKP, ToadTog, DSM, Pause, etc
3: all buttons created equal
If you start from the premise that the user will be using a computer, then doing all of this stuff is easy. In fact, you really don't even have to carry around the huge base of setup codes and protocols since you can stuff them in from the computer. This frees up a LOT of the space in the remote for other more useful functions.
(although I bet that managing the color LCD with bitmaps takes up a good bit of space!)
That said, I'm interested in getting my hands on one just to see what you can (and can't) do with it.
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Evan_s
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I imagine they will have some sort of ToadTog built in. You pretty much have to do activities any time you deal with anything that doesn't have discrete inputs.
LKP is one of the main extender things that I've fallen in love with and would think may not be on the original remote.
Do harmony remotes support lkp/dkp? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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In my latest setup, I tried to use DKP to select between regular FFWD and 30sec skip on my DVR. In the end, I just made it a LKP. Much more natural. I cannot live without LKP.
Good question about LKP/DKP on harmony remotes. Anyone?
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Capn Trips
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Good question about LKP/DKP on harmony remotes. Anyone?
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Not on the Harmony ONE. I've never heard of LKP on ANY commercial remote except for some occasional "one-off" type situations (like pressing the "setup" button on JP1 remotes has a different effect whether short or long, but doesn't really send a separate signal.)
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Capn Trips
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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As for the xSight remotes, I haven't seen any available for retail yet, but I like the fact that they finally have the four color buttons that are more and more prevalent on many devices today.
If and when they become available, I might break down and get one to do a xSight vs. Harmony ONE face-off (of course also seeing if it's JP1-able - although I cannot imagine why they would provide ANOTHER interface if it will already have a USB interface!).
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The Robman
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:27 am Post subject: |
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I think the Xsights are already out in Europe and will be launched here in the spring.
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underquark
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Where in Europe? It was announced (or was due to be announced) at a big electronics meeting in Berlin, I believe, but I haven't seen one yet.
I tried the OFA website the other day and the Europe page was down. Tried again today and entered a few different cities (and I mean big places like London, Paris, Barcelona) in the "Find Your Store" box. No retailers listed but it did offer advice to "Phone the store first to see if they have what you want".
BBC website, dated 14 December says it hadn't been released yet. Incidentally, this page also contains a link to the death (at the age of 93 in early 2007) of Robert Adler, credited with inventing the first TV remote (and who was mentioned in a previous posting here).
I did find a site offering to sell me nipple markers alongside X-sight but it turns out that this is a dye made by Kodak and used in medical imaging. I wait with baited breath (and unmarked nipples). |
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Of course you know that's "bated breath" and not "baited breath" (Although I suppose you could have worms on your breath, although that would be ... unusual.) 
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underquark
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Capn Trips wrote: | | Of course you know that's "bated breath" and not "baited breath" |
Freudian (better hope so).
| Geoffrey Taylor wrote: | Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death. |
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Capn Trips
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Here is the product info page from OFA-UK's website. And here is a link to the manual. I guess the model designation for the Xsight Touch is URC-8603.
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underquark
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| Thanks for the links but they just time out. Could OFA be blocking access to these pages from the UK, or am I being paranoid and they're just updating their site at the weekend? The remotes are, however, appearing for sale now on Amazon.de (Germany) at EUR199.97. Following the link to the UK page shows some different remotes and - for some reason - a mosquito head net, but no Xsight. |
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Capn Trips
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| underquark wrote: | | Thanks for the links but they just time out. Could OFA be blocking access to these pages from the UK, or am I being paranoid and they're just updating their site at the weekend? The remotes are, however, appearing for sale now on Amazon.de (Germany) at EUR199.97. Following the link to the UK page shows some different remotes and - for some reason - a mosquito head net, but no Xsight. |
Interesting. I know that I tested those links previously. Now I cannot even navigate to the page from which I GOT to those links. Good thing that I downloaded the manual and have posted it in the file section here.
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Remotes: OFA XSight Touch, AR XSight Touch
TVs: LG 65" Smart LED TV; Samsung QN850BF Series - 8K UHD Neo QLED LCD TV
RCVR: Onkyo TX-SR875; Integra DTR 40.3
DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
Laserdisc: Pioneer CLD-D704.
Amazon Firestick
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