JP1 Remotes

mathdon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 am Post subject:

Thank you for the rmaster.err file. It is as I would expect when Search runs but does not find any remotes. My best guess is that Search is working and is picking up the signal from the remote, but RMIR does not recognise it as a UEI remote and so it does not appear in the search display. I have made RMIR able to test for that.

I have posted a zip file in the RMIR Development folder that contains a RemoteMaster.jar to replace that in RMIR v2.12.1. RMIR should then show up as version 2.12.2 in Help > About. This has a new option "Find all Bluetooth" on the Options > Advanced menu. Please select this option and then try searching for the remote. The search box should now list ALL Bluetooth devices that it finds, so you will probably get several that are not UEI remotes. A UEI remote should show up in that box with a name that is some variant of "Smart". My URC7880 shows up as "SmArt", yours may be different. Entries that show with no name, or a name that is not a variant of Smart, should be ignored. If you get one that does have such a name, it would be safe to try to connect to it. This option is deselected whenever you start RMIR, so if you try more than once, you need to select it each time. Note also that this option only works with the BLED112 dongle, so do not try it with the Win10 Bluetooth.

Whatever happens, please post the rmaster.err file that this session gives. That will now also contain the Bluetooth addresses of any devices it finds, for my information.
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Graham

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

Thank you!

Here is the rmaster.err file obtained by replacing the jar file as you described: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26117

RMIR found several Bluetooth devices. One had a name that was a variant of "smart", so I chose to connect. The connection was successful and the display on the general tab looked a bit different than what I have been used to. I clicked on "Download from remote", just to see what happened and RMIR warned me that data had changed, so rather than tempt fates, I aborted the download.

Let me know what else I can do to assist you.

Ed

mathdon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:12 am Post subject:

Excellent! Ignore "Data has changed", that is data in RMIR memory, the message is sometimes spurious but in any case is just a reminder that you may lose an unsaved setup. No harm can come to the remote from ignoring that message. So go ahead and try a download. The rmaster.err file confirms that it is the remote, signature 606101, and that the connection to the remote was completed so I expect a download to work.
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Graham

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

Download works! Thanks!

Any next steps? Dare I try connecting using WCL on the Windows 10 Laptop?

mathdon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:03 am Post subject:

Windows WCL will not work. The new option only affects the dongle. This is because all the code for the dongle is in Java in the main body of RMIR and is easily edited. The corresponding code for Windows WCL is written in C# and converted into a dll file for use by RMIR. I am going to have to learn again how to do that Rolling Eyes

, so don't expect a quick fix for Windows WCL. As for the dongle, I am going to have to think about how to handle what we have found. The remote is identified as UEI by a part of its Bluetooth address that identifies the manufacturer. The European remotes URC7980 and URC7955 have a different manufacturer code from that of my URC7880 but I had assumed all URC7880 remotes would have the same code. Apparently that is not so.

The good news is that everything should now work for you with the dongle, provided you select the new option each time and use the SmArt entry. If you just ignore the other entries you can register the remote with RMIR, connect, download and upload as you wish. We have done all the diagnostics, it is now up to me how to handle what we have learned, and it will take some time. But if you have further problems, do please let me know.
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Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

Thank you again, Graham. I'm happy to help if you need anything from me. Would you like me to try to connect to my other remote to see what code it uses?

For now, it's on to configuring this remote to work for my daughter. She's got a Firestick and an AppleTV which present some challenges I see from other reports here.

mathdon · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:44 pm Post subject:

mathdon · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:32 pm Post subject:

Ed, please try development build 4 of RMIR v2.12 which I have posted in the RMIR Development folder on SourceForge. Bluetooth should work with both BLED112 and the Windows WCL interface, and without the need to select the Find All Bluetooth option. In the course of testing, I found that the Windows WCL interface does not work with Java 14 but it does with Java 8. I don't know about versions in between. However, I see from the error files you posted earlier that you are using Java 8, and in fact jre1.8.0_241 is exactly the Java I have tested with, so this should not be an issue. The Find All Bluetooth option still works, and now works also with Windows WCL, but you should not need to use it.

Please try it and report back, as for obvious reasons I have not been able to test it with a remote that has the same manufacturer code as yours.
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Graham

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

Hi Graham,

Thanks for your continued support.

It will be a few days before I have access to the remotes again. My daughter is using them, but I do have a few more tweaks to make to them. I should get to that toward the end of this week, and I'll be able to test the development build when I do.

I have registered both of them, so they pop up immediately in RMIR without having to do a search. I assume that I will need to de-register one of them, then search again to re-find it, using both the BLED112 and WCL, with the development build of RMIR.

If my understanding is correct, I'll post back here with my results in a few days.

Ed

mathdon · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:38 pm Post subject:

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

mathdon · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:24 pm Post subject:

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

mathdon · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 am Post subject:

Thanks for the feedback, Ed. The results are disappointing, but the one bright feature is that you did, once, find your remotes with the dongle without selecting Find all Bluetooth. That at least shows that my new algorithm for determining if a Bluetooth device is a UEI remote does work. Unfortunately there is nothing of use in the rmaster.err file. It is not complete, so does not include any diagnostics from the search process. Perhaps you copied the file while RMIR was still open. It needs to be copied after you have closed RMIR for it to include all diagnostics.

I will try to reproduce your testing myself, as closely as possible. You have certainly given me something to go on, as your account is very detailed as to what you tried and what then happened. I will get back to you after doing my further tests.
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Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

I'll stand by and await further word from you, Graham.

I checked rmaster.err after running my tests and it was full of information. The only thing I can think of is that I may have opened RMIR 2.12.4 before I posted rmaster.err and that cleared it out. I was being very careful about that, though, and I deliberately made 2.12.4 inconvenient to access -- no shortcut on my desktop. I did run 2.12.2 a couple times before I posted the file. Could that have cleared out rmaster.err for 2.12.4? They reside in different directories.

If I don't hear from you before I see my daughter again, I'll re-run the test, save off the error file and post it again.