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mitten58



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject: RCA RT4038 TV Reply with quote

1. Device: RCA RT4038
2. Type of device: Television
3. Year: 2019
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: Atlas OCAP 1056B01
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question? n/a
11. Have you tried the JP1 Lookup Tool? Yes, didn't find anything
12. If you have a OARUSB04G (or similar) remote, have you tried simpleset.com? n/a


My (old) learning remote can't decipher the signals from the original remote.
The one thing I have been able to find is that the (non-JP1) RCA remote RCRN04GR works OK when with programmed with the code 12746. Of course, the Atlas remote does not recognize five-digit codes, and it does not recognize "2746". (The 1 is supposed to be just an identifier for "TV".) If anyone can tell what "12746" is, I would appreciate.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try codes 10178 or 11758.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your old learning remote a JP1 remote? If so, when you say it can't decipher the signals, do you mean it can't capture them (ie, the learning remote doesn't work when you try it on your TV), or are you saying that RMIR doesn't give you the protocol information?

If your old learning remote IS a JP1 remote and it IS able to capture the signals, regardless of whether they get displayed in RMIR, you should post your RMIR file for us to look at.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give this a try. NEC1 160
http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=25755
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. I will have to try those codes and file. It will take a while, but I will report back.

When I mentioned that my old (Kamelion) remote could not decipher the signals, I meant that, when I tried to capture any signal from the OEM remote, the Kamelion would respond with a long blink, instead of the two short blinks which would indicate a successful capture.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to rule out the obvious, did you try the standard RCA TV codes first (ie, like TV/0047)?

Regarding the learning not working, it's very rare for an OFA remote to not be able to capture a signal, so if you're willing, we could dig into that a bit deeper. First off, make sure that you have good batteries in both remotes. Next, always leave a second or so between when you put the Kameleon into learn more and when you start pressing the RCA remote button.

There are various things you can try to try to get the process to work. First, try having the remotes pretty close together, and if that doesn't work, move them an inch further apart, then repeat. Some remotes work better almost touching each other, some work better 4 or 5 inches apart. Next, look at where the IR LEDs are in each remote, some remotes are much thicker than others, so when they're both lying on a table, the LEDs might not be properly lined up, and if that's the case, try and raise the lower one so that it does line up, by lying it on some papers or something.

Normally you should press the RCA remote button until the Kameleon indicates the learn is complete, but if that isn't working, try short presses of the RCA button. If you can get just one button to capture properly, and you get a good signal capture, that will tell us the protocol and device code that you need and that in turn will almost certainly tell us which upgrade file to give to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also possible that your learning memory is full. Do a full reset to clear it out and try again.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably wasn't clear enough. The OP says that a UEI remote controls the TV using 12746, where as usual the leading "1" implies a TV code. Unless I made a mistake in preparing the upgrade, the RMDU file I provided should also control the TV.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3FG, the upgrade you made is indeed an exact match of 12746, no mistake. So there is a 100% chance it will work.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed My mistake. The learning remote just needed new batteries. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you for the help and especially for creating the file. Please close this request
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the upgrade that 3FG created for you isn't the right one for your TV, please be sure to create a new upgrade for it now that you've got the learning situation sorted out.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3FG file worked fine, it was only missing a few buttons. See the list below for all of the buttons learned from the original remote (list presented as comma-separated variables).

The instructions for the colored buttons (red, green, yellow blue) state that they are not used for this particular model of TV.

I tried to make an new RMDU file, but the system renames the buttons to what is available on the JP1 remote. (Yes: I need to reread the fine manual for JP1.) I wanted to preserve the names of the buttons on the original remote, hence the list below.


RCA - Model RT-4038 TV
Protocol: NEC1
Protocol ID: 00 5A
Device: 160


OBC,HEX,Button Name & Description
95,5,Power
28,C7,Mute
83,35,1
80,F5,2
18,B7,3
79,0D,4
76,CD,5
14,8F,6
75,2D,7
72,ED,8
10,AF,9
6,9F,-/-- Description: Switch Channel Digit
68,DD,0
71,1D,Looped Arrows Description: Previous Channel select
67,3D,Audio Description: Audio Channel Select
2,BF,Fav + Description: Scroll + through list
5,5F,Fav Description: Show favorite list
91,25,Fav - Description: Scroll – through list
3,3F,Ch +
90,A5,P. Mode Description: Preset picture modes
64,FD,Vol +
31,7,Ch -
84,D5,S. Mode Description: Preset sound modes
93,45,Vol -
26,A7,Input Description: Available input channels
23,17,Sleep Description: Sleep timer
22,97,Aspect Description: Select screen sizes
27,27,Info Description: Current program information
89,65,Up Arrow
86,95,Left Arrow
85,55,OK Description: Enter or Confirm
20,D7,Right Arrow
81,75,Down Arrow
19,37,Menu Description: Main Menu or Menu Up
16,F7,Exit Description: Exit Menu or Function
94,85,Ch List Description: List Adecanales
12,CF,EPG Description: DTV Mode: Electronic Program Guideline
77,4D,Play/Pause Description: Play or Pause media files
13,4F,Stop Description: Stop playing media files
9,6F,F. Rev.
8,EF,F. Fwd.
74,AD,Prev Description: Jump to previous media file
73,6D,Next Description: Jump to next media file
82,B5,CC Description: Closed Caption
87,15,MTS Description: Multi-Channel TV Sound
4,DF,Freeze Description: Freeze/Unfreeze toggle
88,E5,Repeat Description: Select Previous/Next media file
66,BD,Red Button
65,7D,Green Button
1,7F,Yellow Button
0,FF,Blue Button
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Names on the Functions tab are preserved.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what's not working for you, but here are the codes that you posted transformed into an RMDU file. I have mapped all the obvious buttons to their equivalent on the Atlas, and then mapped all the remaining buttons to semi-random buttons on the Atlas, so feed free to re-configure.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=25780
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