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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AUX, TV and SAT are device buttons, when you create a device upgrade you need to select a device mode, that's what I was referring to.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I populated all buttons and all seem to operate correctly except the colors. I also filled only just the colored and phantom but none worked. I reset the remote with 9-8-1 and saved the rmir if this is what im understanding you wanted. The colored buttons respond after a reset.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackching wrote:
I populated all buttons and all seem to operate correctly except the colors. I also filled only just the colored and phantom but none worked. I reset the remote with 9-8-1 and saved the rmir if this is what im understanding you wanted. The colored buttons respond after a reset.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26911

I don't see any upgrades in this RMIR file.

At this point I think I'd need to have the remote in my hand in order to finish it by programming an upgrade using Cable device mode with all the buttons programmed. If it's worth $12 USD to you, you could buy a remote for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one has an upgrade with the buttons populated with random roku in cable mode im assuming.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you program the Up/Down/Left/Right arrow buttons to the 4 colored buttons, then test them when your Roku is on a menu screen.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Could you program the Up/Down/Left/Right arrow buttons to the 4 colored buttons, then test them when your Roku is on a menu screen.


They work perfect! Just had to be in cable mode I guess. In the other modes I was using, they act as though they are turned off.

Is there any chance this remote doesn't support macros? Any time i assign a macro to a button using remote master, it just turns the tv off. Also the 995 command doesn't work. the reason for these colored buttons are for my discrete inputs. I would like to be able to create a macro on the colored buttons where i choose the input then the device button that operates the device on that input. Can discretes be assigned to phantom buttons then create macros on an actual button using those phantoms?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This remote has 4 device modes:
  • Cable
  • TV
  • Video
  • Audio
Where only Cable and Video modes include the 4 colored buttons, and Cable mode includes the most buttons.

All the other device modes that you see in RMIR fall back to one of the 4 modes above.
  • TV = TV
  • Video = DVD,Laserdisc,DAT,VCR
  • Audio = CD,Tuner,Home Auto,Misc Audio,Phono,Amp,Tape
  • Cable = Cable,Video Acc, SAT
According to the manual, this remote does NOT support macros, but it does support "Power Master", which is what the 995 command is for is in this remote. In the past, we have found that when a remote supports some form of macro, we are able to program normal macros from RMIR. Whether this is true for this remote is for you to find out. Try programming a macro using RMIR and assign it to a normal button and see if it works.

From the user manual...
USING THE MASTER POWER KEY
The Shaw Direct IRC600 and URC600 Remote Controls have a unique feature that allows you to sequentially turn up to three of your home entertainment devices on or off with a single key press.
NOTE: The MASTER POWER (Power) default setting is the SAT mode. If it is not programmed, only the Satellite receiver and TV will turn on or off. In the AUX or TV mode, pressing the Power key will only turn on or off the selected device.

PROGRAMMING THE MASTER POWER KEY
1. Press and hold SAT until the Red Light blinks at least twice, then release SAT.
2. Enter in 9 - 9 - 5 The Red Light will blink twice.
3. Press and release each mode key once in the order that you want them in the Master Power sequence.
4. Press and release the Power key (The red light under SAT will flash twice).

USING THE MASTER POWER KEY
After Programming, point the remote control at your devices and press and hold the POWER key for 1.5 seconds
Removing the Master Power Key
1. Press and hold SAT until the Red Light blinks twice, then release SAT.
2. Enter in 9 - 9 - 5 The Red Light will blink twice.
3. Press and release the Power key (The red light under SAT will flash twice).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried a couple of different macros on a couple of different normal buttons using remote master and it just powers the tv off every time no matter which sequence i seem to use.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would conclude then that the "Power Master" is the only type of macro that it supports. If you're willing, try following the instructions in the manual to program the various flavors of power master macro to see how they are represented in RMIR and, if necessary, we may need to tweak RMIR to display them correctly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I may have to get a new remote as macros with discrete inputs play a big role with my current setup. As far as I could tell, the "Power Master" looks to be represented correctly in RMIR (under the macro section).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you program a power master, you only need to include the device buttons, but when the macro itself plays, it sends the POWER button for each selected device button. When you say it appears correct in RMIR, do you just see the device buttons or do you see the POWER buttons also?

If it's the latter, have you tried editing a power master macro to add in some other buttons?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
When you program a power master, you only need to include the device buttons, but when the macro itself plays, it sends the POWER button for each selected device button. When you say it appears correct in RMIR, do you just see the device buttons or do you see the POWER buttons also?

If it's the latter, have you tried editing a power master macro to add in some other buttons?


In the Macros tab, under the Key Column it shows Power. Under the Macro Keys column it shows AUX;TV which is what I set it to.

OK say if i delete the "Power Master" macro and try to add my own macro, the macro button just becomes unresponsive. If i leave the "Power Master" macro there and add a new macro, the new macro button will power off the device.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can suggest is that you experiment with the macros to see if you can make them do anything more than just execute the POWER button. If can't find any backdoor tricks to get a macro to work, then that's all she wrote.

You could, of course, program something ELSE to the power button, because the remote won't know it's not really the power function, then it'll execute that function in the macro. You could program the real power function to the shifted power button, assuming shifting works on this remote.

Shifting is where you tap the SETUP button before a regular button, that way you can stack 2 functions on a single button.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to use a different remote that already has the features you need.
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