Smallest JP1 remote?

matt · Post by **matt** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:17 am

I'm looking for a JP1 remote around the size of a Roku remote. Anybody know of one?

I need minimal buttons and JP1 or Macro capability.

Something like the Philips SRU4002 would be ideal.

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:47 am

Check out the URC 6820Z and CM-7500XRC2. The latter is larger than a Roku remote, but not much. I'm guessing the simpler 6810 is probably JP1-able too, but we don't have an RDF yet since nobody has asked.
https://www.oneforall.com/remotes/urc68 ... -plus.html
https://www.channelmaster.com/DVR_Repla ... 00xrc2.htm

(If you want the CM remote above, you can have mine cheap. Just PM me).

EDIT: Turns out the CM is larger than I remembered: 4.5 cm longer and 2 cm wider than a Roku remote, but still smaller than most JP1 remotes. So looks like the URCs are your best bet after all.

matt · Post by **matt** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:21 pm

I bought and returned the O4A URC 6810, it was huge. Misleading proportions. Volume wise it was more like 3x Roku, and it had very sharp square edges, not ergonomic at all.

The CM is not much different to my current remote. Too many unused buttons for my current setup.

Thanks the the suggestions though!

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:35 pm

That's too bad. I don't know of anything else that comes closer JP1-wise. But you could certainly use a JP1 remote to teach something like these:
https://www.amazon.com/CHUNGHOP-Learnin ... B06ZZRPZH6
https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Remote- ... B00LGBMF3W

Chunghop apparently makes several cheap, tiny learning remotes that work pretty well.

matt · Post by **matt** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:45 pm

We are on the same wavelength.

I am currently trying out two Chunghop remotes.

The L7 you linked to above (buttons are really stiff)
And the L181 (quite nice)

The issue is I need to use Macro mode.

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:36 pm

What used to work with Harmony was to send a fast macro from JP1 and learn it in one shot.

MaskedMan · Post by **MaskedMan** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:13 am

Try the URC mx-200 remote, you can get the software from remote central, under NXG.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153064684806

matt · Post by **matt** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:24 am

mdavej wrote:What used to work with Harmony was to send a fast macro from JP1 and learn it in one shot.

I have tried that, but I was not aware macros could be different speeds? Maybe I should try a "fast" macro? How?

MaskedMan wrote:Try the URC mx-200 remote, you can get the software from remote central, under NXG.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153064684806

That looks like just the ticket, will see if I cab get it for a reasonable price in, or shipped to, the UK.

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:58 am

matt wrote:
mdavej wrote:What used to work with Harmony was to send a fast macro from JP1 and learn it in one shot.
I have tried that, but I was not aware macros could be different speeds? Maybe I should try a "fast" macro? How?

You would need to be using an extender, which JP1 remotes do you have?

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:05 am

matt wrote: I have tried that, but I was not aware macros could be different speeds? Maybe I should try a "fast" macro? How?

Any JP1 remote running an extender will execute macros several times faster than an unextended remote, perhaps fast enough to appear as a single IR signal to another learning remote. A few unextended JP1 remotes can also run a "fast macros" patch. So it depends on what model JP1 remote you have.

In the old days when Harmony couldn't run long macros, I could teach a 20 step macro to it from a JP1 remote in a single learn for a total duration of under 2 seconds.

matt · Post by **matt** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:23 am

My daily driver JP1 is an Insignia NS-RC05A-11

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:39 am

I believe you can use the JP1.3 common extender with the 31473147 Insignia remote.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=25088

unclemiltie · Post by **unclemiltie** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 am

IF that remote is signature 31473147 then the common extender will work. you may have to edit the button names in the 3X47 RDF file to match the buttons that are on your remote, but otherwise every remote I've seen with the 3147 signature has had the same basic firmware load and the extender will work.

matt · Post by **matt** » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:09 pm

I'll give that a go this weekend! Many thanks

matt · Post by **matt** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Just got around to trying this... it *almost* works!

Macro on JP1 is: Input;Up;Right
(this opens input menu, moves from top to bottom of list, confirms selection)
I have confirmed the Macro works from my JP1 remote.

Chunghop appears to learn Macro from JP1 remote.

But results are not as expected:

- TV responds to Input and Up (menu appears, cursor moves)
- No response to Right (input does not change)
- OSD displays current aspect ratio setting, as if Up key alone had been pressed

Any ideas?

Kind of feels like Up and Right are being combined somehow?

FWIW remote for this TV sends alternating signals