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Jim978
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 67 Location: New England |
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:28 am Post subject: [SOLVED] Special Protocol |
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I've been using JP1 remotes for many years, but I have never used (and never felt the need to use) a special protocol. That just changed. I recently purchased a new TV and reprogrammed my Atlas 1056B03. Everything works, but when I launch certain macros that power on the TV, other commands for that device are sent before the set is ready to accept them.
I can fix things by executing the same macro a second time, of course, but it's not exactly an elegant solution. I tried inserting other macro commands between the TV power on and other TV commands, but the set still wasn't ready. I could fill the macro with dummy commands (who knows how many it would take), but I thought it would be better to insert a pause. So, I decided to try something new and downloaded The Robman's pause from the Special Protocols files section.
Here's my problem. I don't know what to do with that file. I searched for a Special Protocols for Dummies guide, but wasn't able to find one. Can someone point me to a step-by-step guide for special protocols?
Thanks! _________________ Jim
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Jim978
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 67 Location: New England |
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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mdavej,
Thanks for responding to my post. The link is much appreciated. I've read it and think I understand what to do. I'll let you know how it all turns out. _________________ Jim |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21237 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Here's an example of the Pause protocol in use. Both my TV and STB take a few moments to warm up and be ready for action. The macro on Shift/CBL is the one that I use to fire up the system. First, I power on the TV and the STB, then I wait for 0.188 secs before sending the GUIDE button to the STB, then I wait another 1.22 secs before sending the first TV command, so the TV gets the benefit of both pauses. It took a lot of trial and error to find the right pause durations for it to work.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26823 _________________ Rob
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Jim978
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 67 Location: New England |
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. With your guidance I was able to easily (once I understood the process) add a pause to the macros in question. A pause is only needed when the tv is off, and sometimes the tv is already on. But when that's not the case, this really helps!
I may try to follow The Rob Man's suggestion and experiment with various pause lengths. On the other hand, things are working right now so I may decide to leave well enough alone. We'll just have to wait and see.
I want to say that you all are terrific. Any time I've had trouble puzzling things out on my own, you guys are right there with the answers. I really appreciate that you take the time to help guys like me out. _________________ Jim |
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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If it works, it works, right? It was tricky to find the right amount of pause for my set to respond, and as it is, I feel like I'm holding the remote pointing at the screen for ages, so I wouldn't want it any longer. _________________ Rob
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mdavej Expert
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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One trick I use for variable warmup times is to put discrete ON and input commands at the beginning and after my pauses so if the TV is already warm, I get immediate results. Another trick, if you're using an extender, is to put a short macro with no pauses on short press, and a long macro with pauses on a long press. But those don't work if you only have power toggle. May want to consider toadtog protocol in that case. Or just leave well enough alone. |
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Lurker
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:36 am Post subject: |
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What I have always done is put steps in the EVERYTHING OFF macro that resets the TV to the desired turn-on state just prior to turning it off. So then I never have to wait for pauses when turning it on. |
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