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I found the correct OBC hex code for TV# 12049 FFwd, 7D. It was one away from Rew, 7E.
EFC
00008 FFwd.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:03 am Post subject: |
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I broke down and ordered one.
What is the difference between 4398 & 4740?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Code 4398 will work on all Roku tv brands, code 4740 will only work on Hisense & Sharp Roku tv's.
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SysTech_Larry
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| MaskedMan wrote: | | Code 4398 will work on all Roku tv brands, code 4740 will only work on Hisense & Sharp Roku tv's. |
Is the Onn a UEI remote?
Will it take the same EFC codes?
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If you get the Right Onn universal 6 remote, yes its UEI remote. The one I linked to is UEI made remote. And it will accept efc's, but if you're asking if the efc's between code 4398 & 4740 are the same, no they're not. The only efc in this thread for the code 4740 are listed on page nine, all other efc's in 10 pages will work with code 4398.
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Because of Roku update Roku's no longer accept number keys on Live Tv Guide, numbers are no longer there. 
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SysTech_Larry
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| MaskedMan wrote: | | If you get the Right Onn universal 6 remote, yes its UEI remote. The one I linked to is UEI made remote. And it will accept efc's, but if you're asking if the efc's between code 4398 & 4740 are the same, no they're not. The only efc in this thread for the code 4740 are listed on page nine, all other efc's in 10 pages will work with code 4398. |
They are different on my current universal, too.
Are Charter EFCs [@12183] & Onn EFCs [@4740] the same as each other?
Are they the same between Charter [#12049] & Onn [4398]?
| MaskedMan wrote: | | Because of Roku update Roku's no longer accept number keys on Live Tv Guide, numbers are no longer there. |
My Hisense H4 TV just started accepting channel numbers and it has the latest software upgrade. When I retested a discovered second Info key [in Goldstar #12183], it was working as a Radix for the channel number system. When I tested the Dynex code set [#12049], it acknowledged channel numbers, too, but I had not discovered the Radix EFC, yet.
Also, number keys are included on Hisense EN2A27 remote (which I ordered*), but I am not sure that all its keys will work on an H4 TV. (Owners of that remote cannot be happy...)
*I am hoping that it will give me a working Live TV key and clarify what IR hex 7F (and repeat at FF) is supposed to do.
PS: Is "OBC" the decimal form of what I am calling the IR hex code?
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| The Robman wrote: | TV/4740 uses the Roku protocol with device code 4, sub-device 251.
Just for reference, the other 2 Roku codes are:
Roku STBs:
234.194 - CBL/3061, 5687
Roku TVs:
234.199 - CBL/4410, Game/1151, TV/4398
As you know, I'm always curious to know the OBCs for stuff like this, so here's your list using OBCs:
008 - Power
098 - Starz
100 - YuppTV
130 - Volume Up
131 - Volume Down
137 - Mute
154 - Sleep Timer
155 - Spotify
175 - Options
197 - SlingTV
198 - Showtime
199 - Prime
201 - Rdio
203 - Vudu
204 - Netflix
209 - HBO Max
210 - YouTube
220 - Hulu
231 - Directv Stream
232 - Crackle
233 - Paramount+
234 - Roku Ch
235 - ESPN
246 - AV In
252 - HDMI1
253 - HDMI2
254 - HDMI3 |
These OBCs are true when you subtract 128, too.
I get an acknowledgement for OBCs 127 & 255, but no obvious action.
And I cannot find a Live TV key.
Hopefully, a Hisense EN2A27 remote will clear that up for me.
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| SysTech_Larry wrote: | | Hopefully, a Hisense EN2A27 remote will clear that up for me. |
It turns out that many of the keys on the EN2A27 do not work as intended on my Hisense Roku TV (model year 2020).
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Hisense Roku tv's use a different code from Hisense Android tv's and Hisense Fire tv's. And then non-branded smart Hisense tv's models use completely different code sets too.
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| MaskedMan wrote: | | Hisense Roku tv's use a different code from Hisense Android tv's and Hisense Fire tv's. And then non-branded smart Hisense tv's models use completely different code sets too. |
My TV and the remote are both Hisense Roku.
My TV is the Hisense H4 model.
The EN2A27 is for 4K Roku TVs.
(Mine may not be a 4K. The user manual is not clear on that spec.)
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| SysTech_Larry wrote: | | MaskedMan wrote: | | Hisense Roku tv's use a different code from Hisense Android tv's and Hisense Fire tv's. And then non-branded smart Hisense tv's models use completely different code sets too. |
My TV and the remote are both Hisense Roku.
My TV is the Hisense H4 model.
The EN2A27 is for 4K Roku TVs.
(Mine may not be a 4K. The user manual is not clear on that spec.) |
The EN2A27 is not Roku tv remote, not one of the many Tv models listed for that remote is Roku tv. You bought the wrong remote period. As you found out, it doesn't work on Roku tv's.
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SysTech_Larry
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| MaskedMan wrote: | | The EN2A27 is not Roku tv remote, not one of the many Tv models listed for that remote is Roku tv. You bought the wrong remote period. As you found out, it doesn't work on Roku tv's. |
It has the Roku shortcut keys and they share some keys in common.
Turning to the Onn universal,
#4398 had a different vendor code [EAC7] than the previously recommended Dynex set [8605]. It had a sparse instruction set with the options key [*] notably not included. The keys worked, but their different key map made them more difficult find undocumented keys. To its credit, the IR's high bit was set with a continuous press, like the OEM remote.
Onn's Dynex set [#2049] had more available keys than Charter's [12049]. It had the FFwd key correctly assigned, but continued to assign the Pause key to Replay2.
Onn's #4740 & #2183 were both Goldstar-based sets [vendor #04FB].
The former did not include Options [*], Channel Radix [-] nor Sleep (which I do not use) buttons. It had the correct FFwd key, though.
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| MaskedMan wrote: | | If you get the Right Onn universal 6 remote, yes its UEI remote. The one I linked to is UEI made remote... |
I see what you mean about the availability of EFCs in 4398.
Since 14398 is not available on the C4000, is there another device code that uses the same vendor ID [#EAC7]? (Even if it is poorly populated, I can add keys as needed.)
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| The Robman wrote: | Hey Ed, I did a lot of code testing today and I found a bunch of new codes and have updated the Roku TV Master File.
Here's the master list of EFC5 codes, these should work with TV/4398 (aka 14398):
00034 - 0
00030 - 1
00032 - 2
00028 - 3
00035 - 4
00031 - 5
00033 - 6
00029 - 7
00162 - 8
00158 - 9
00044 - Arrow Down, CH- in Live TV
00209 - Arrow Left, Channel Guide in Live TV
00111 - Arrow Right
00206 - Arrow Up, CH+ in Live TV
00001 - Back
00211 - Ch- (only in Live TV)
00204 - Ch+ (only in Live TV)
00142 - Channel Guide (only in Live TV)
00066 - Closed Captions
00095 - FastFwd / Page down
00252 - Game mode
00012 - Home
00194 - Instant Replay
00079 - LiveTV Pause
00242 - Mute
00144 - OK (also Display/Info in LIve TV, Play/Pause in apps)
00254 - Options
00163 - Play/Pause
00210 - Power Off
00081 - Power On
00077 - Power Toggle
00051 - Rewind / Page up
00000 - Sleep Timer
00160 - Teletext (only in Live TV)
00082 - Vol Down
00141 - Vol Up
00108 - Input: Antenna TV
00239 - Input: AV Input
00238 - Input: HDMI 1
00240 - Input: HDMI 2
00236 - Input: HDMI 3
00113 - Inputs Menu
00156 - App: Amazon Prime Video
00061 - App: AppleTV (not available on all Roku TVs)
00125 - App: Bomerang
00098 - App: CBS News
00226 - App: Crackle
00140 - App: DAZN
00131 - App: DirecTV Stream
00047 - App: Discovery+
00147 - App: Disney+
00064 - App: ESPN
00126 - App: Fubo TV
00161 - App: HBO Max
00159 - App: Hulu
00096 - App: Netflix
00093 - App: Pandora
00124 - App: Paramount+ (was CBS All Access)
00128 - App: Pluto TV
00110 - App: Roku Media Player
00157 - App: Showtime
00017 - App: SlingTV
00220 - App: Spotify
00221 - App: Starz
00129 - App: The Roku Channel
00127 - App: Tune-In
00049 - App: Vix
00146 - App: Vudu/Fandango
00097 - App: YouTube
00255 - App: YuppTV
00143 - App: Zoom TV for Kids (not available on all Roku TVs) |
This is the first code set in this format that I have seen which did not conform to my OBC/EFC map & algorithm.
This EFC = (199 - My EFC) mod 256
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