Creating IR signals to unlock USB port on LG TVs

[richardworrall]

right, i give up, ive tried allsorts and im not really sure exactly what im doing here being a remote newbie, but nothing works on the programming side of it. I get get the TV to do the basics of volume and channels but thats it.

[The Robman]

right, i give up, ive tried allsorts and im not really sure exactly what im doing here being a remote newbie, but nothing works on the programming side of it. I get get the TV to do the basics of volume and channels but thats it.

If you've totally given up, then that's fine, but otherwise you need to help us to help you.

We need to first determine if the problem is with your remote or your TV. To do this, we need to know if you're able to send normal EFCs (eg, for volume) given that we know the remote is able to work the volume. If you are not able to send the volume EFCs, that tells us that the problem is with your remote (or your ability to use it), which in turn means that there's still hope. If you are able to send the volume EFCs, that proves that you're doing it right and in turn, that means that your TV probably doesn't support the USB hack.

So, if you haven't totally given up, please report back (with details) on what happened when you followed 3FG's instructions below.

Let's try to find out if it is the remote (or a wrong procedure) by trying to send the EFC for a function that we know works. The EFC for Vol+ is 00183.

Test this by
1) tapping Vol+, and seeing that the volume goes up.
2) Tapping Magic and quickly entering 00183. When the last digit (3) is tapped, the remote should send Vol+ to the TV.
3) If that works, try to assign 00183 to the "I" button.

If now tapping "I" makes the volume go up, the remote is functioning as expected.

[jimdunn]

That's a kameleon, correct? It uses a different method to enter EFC's than other remotes. See THIS thread. It's also possible it uses 3 digit EFCs instead of 5. If so, drop the leading zeros.

Just reading this from the outside - I suspect somehow that this comment shouldn't be overlooked either - if the procedure for entering EFCs is different for this kameleon, then I'm not completely sure that we've seen it established that the correct procedure is being used here...

Trawling Google there seem to be some people who may have made the hack work with this LG TV model...

I'm deliberately not linking to the Google results I refer to, because all we can do here is help the "right" signal to be sent from the remote.
Rumours of whether the hack "works" or not seem to me to be very much up to the individual user to search and assess - as, I think, is the potential risk (or not) to his TV from this "experiment"

Apologies if I misread the situation.

[richardworrall]

right, i give up, ive tried allsorts and im not really sure exactly what im doing here being a remote newbie, but nothing works on the programming side of it. I get get the TV to do the basics of volume and channels but thats it.

If you've totally given up, then that's fine, but otherwise you need to help us to help you.

We need to first determine if the problem is with your remote or your TV. To do this, we need to know if you're able to send normal EFCs (eg, for volume) given that we know the remote is able to work the volume. If you are not able to send the volume EFCs, that tells us that the problem is with your remote (or your ability to use it), which in turn means that there's still hope. If you are able to send the volume EFCs, that proves that you're doing it right and in turn, that means that your TV probably doesn't support the USB hack.

So, if you haven't totally given up, please report back (with details) on what happened when you followed 3FG's instructions below.

Let's try to find out if it is the remote (or a wrong procedure) by trying to send the EFC for a function that we know works. The EFC for Vol+ is 00183.

Test this by
1) tapping Vol+, and seeing that the volume goes up.
2) Tapping Magic and quickly entering 00183. When the last digit (3) is tapped, the remote should send Vol+ to the TV.
3) If that works, try to assign 00183 to the "I" button.

If now tapping "I" makes the volume go up, the remote is functioning as expected.

sorry about the post guys, im just having one of those weeks and this remote is just about tipping me over the edge
at what stage should i be doing the above commands, after ive done the DEVSET 0178 - volume and channel thing? because then when i exit the remote menu and tap vol + nothing happens, and again tapping magic and entering the code 00183 nothing happens
If someone could give me the exact key presses i should be doing we may be able to get somewhere. I have never used or seen one of these all in 1 remotes before so i dont have a clue even with the basics.

[mdavej]

I don't know much about the kameleon, but I do know the procedure for assigning EFCs to keys is different than with other JP1 remotes, requiring a few extra steps. The consensus seems to be that simply sending EFCs is no different, so the posted procedure should work, barring any firmware issues with this model remote.

In any case, the OP needs to follow 3FG's and Rob's advice or get another remote known to work normally.

[jimdunn]

It's also probably worth reiterating that for probably $20-$70 (eBay/retail) you can go out and buy a WDTV/Patriot Box Office/No name Realtek 1073 media player that will give you all of this divx/iso/mpg movie/audio/picture playing functionality from USB storage or HDD (and much more) with no risk at all to your presumably expensive TV (and perhaps even more importantly from the "geek" point of view it gives one another fun toy to play with - linux OS/network availability/telnet access/internet movie streaming etc... )...

My LG 50PQ60D-GA already comes with this USB functionality you are seeking to activate through the "hack", in a dedicated USB port on the side panel, by default, without any hacks. I never use this functionality (after, of course, the inevitable initial "play" to "see if it works", which it does...) - purely because the seperate "black box" media player option is so cheap, so much better, and so much more fun.

Just in case you didn't know that, and not to ever, ever, devalue wringing all the functionality we can from our devices - that is, after all, why we are here

But I still thought it worth a mention, here...

[3FG]

richardworrall,
In your original post, you say:

Im trying to configure a URC-8308 to my lg 32ld450 tv.
I can get the tv to respond to the remote using the 0178 code to change the channel and volume etc.

and then go on to explain that you're able to follow a normal 994 procedure. Later you also mention a URC-8204.
Then in your last post, you say:

at what stage should i be doing the above commands, after ive done the DEVSET 0178 - volume and channel thing? because then when i exit the remote menu and tap vol + nothing happens, and again tapping magic and entering the code 00183 nothing happens

So which is it--can setup code TV 0178 control the Volume or not? If it can, follow the procedure that Rob quoted above, and report the results.

To posters who are conceerned that the Kameleon need a different procedure:
Here is the OFA procedure for doing keymoves (lifted from a thread started by gup which I linked a few posts back) using the 8308.
1. Press and hold down the Magic key until it blinks twice
2. Press KEY MAGIC
3. Press the relevant Device key once (e.g.TV)
4. Press the Magic key once and let go
5. Enter the code for the required function (please see bellow)
6. Press the One For All key you wish to assign the function to, the IR indicator will blink twice
7. Press ESC to quit or KEY MAGIC to program another function

[jimdunn]

To posters who are conceerned that the Kameleon need a different procedure:
Here is the OFA procedure for doing keymoves (lifted from a thread started by gup which I linked a few posts back) using the 8308.
1. Press and hold down the Magic key until it blinks twice
2. Press KEY MAGIC
3. Press the relevant Device key once (e.g.TV)
4. Press the Magic key once and let go
5. Enter the code for the required function (please see bellow)
6. Press the One For All key you wish to assign the function to, the IR indicator will blink twice
7. Press ESC to quit or KEY MAGIC to program another function

Ah, ok - the linked thread had a different procedure:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 7440#17440

and, never having personally owned a kameleon, I was concerned that (or 3 digit EFCs) could just be the issue here.

I'm probably not reading the whole thing correctly.

[mdavej]

I thought kameleons needed step 2.5. Press OTHER

[jimdunn]

I thought kameleons needed step 2.5. Press OTHER

That was one of the differences that stood out to me, from the link - but then I confused myself again by thinking that may not apply to "newer" kameleons.

Still - the confusion was enough to make me wish to highlight the possibility again, as it seemed it might be at risk of going unnoticed - and, with zero kameleon experience, I'm afraid that's about all I can contribute...

edited typo

[3FG]

See page 18 of the 8308 manual . It is consistent with the above quoted keymove instructions, with no "Other" step. Page 27 also shows that the Magic key will function as a shift.

[jimdunn]

See page 18 of the 8308 manual. It is consistent with the above quoted keymove instructions, with no "Other" step. Page 27 also shows that the Magic key will function as a shift.

Cool - that should work, then - hopefully richardworrall can therefore just follow your and Rob's instructions above and report his results - my apologies for maybe confusing the issue.

[mdavej]

I think the manual is wrong. Holding MAGIC always shows a setup screen on which you have to press OTHER before it will take any 99x code. Can any kameleon owners out there confirm?

Edit: Nevermind. I was thinking you had to press OTHER, 994 instead of KEY MAGIC. My mistake.

[richardworrall]

richardworrall,
In your original post, you say:

Im trying to configure a URC-8308 to my lg 32ld450 tv.
I can get the tv to respond to the remote using the 0178 code to change the channel and volume etc.

and then go on to explain that you're able to follow a normal 994 procedure. Later you also mention a URC-8204.
Then in your last post, you say:

at what stage should i be doing the above commands, after ive done the DEVSET 0178 - volume and channel thing? because then when i exit the remote menu and tap vol + nothing happens, and again tapping magic and entering the code 00183 nothing happens

So which is it--can setup code TV 0178 control the Volume or not? If it can, follow the procedure that Rob quoted above, and report the results.

To posters who are conceerned that the Kameleon need a different procedure:
Here is the OFA procedure for doing keymoves (lifted from a thread started by gup which I linked a few posts back) using the 8308.
1. Press and hold down the Magic key until it blinks twice
2. Press KEY MAGIC
3. Press the relevant Device key once (e.g.TV)
4. Press the Magic key once and let go
5. Enter the code for the required function (please see bellow)
6. Press the One For All key you wish to assign the function to, the IR indicator will blink twice
7. Press ESC to quit or KEY MAGIC to program another function

To clear up any confusion.

I have purchased two remotes - the URC8204 and the URC8308. Both work the basic functions of the TV using the 0178 code.
I then follow the steps (1-7)above on both remotes and both respond by flashing twice to confirm assignment of KEYMAGIC code. The code im using is 00018 for EZ-MENU on TV (Setup)
Ive also tried this on both remotes using your suggested code for Volume. Both remotes flash to confirm correct entries.
BUT when i go and press the assigned key nothing happens.

Hope thats easier to understand.

[3FG]

I want you to try an intermediate step to see if the volume goes up when you tap the Magic button and quickly enter 00183. Don't enter 00018; we're just verifying that the remote works, and 00183 is the 5 digit number associated with Vol+.

When the last digit (3) is tapped, the remote should send Vol+ to the TV.

Does the volume go up when you do this?

If it does, follow the 994 procedure using 00183 (not 00018) to assign to a different button than Vol. Then check if tapping that button causes the Vol to go up.

If it doesn't, then probably your remotes have a firmware error associated with keymoves.