JP1 Remotes

cliefan wrote:I'm new to this so bare with me.... why would I want to know if the other OBCs work? I have all of the signals from the original remote, what more would i need? or is it just to have a COMPLETE upgrade with all of the OBCs that do anything to the unit?

A device will often support additional functions over and above those found on the original remote. The primary functions that people need, as mentioned before, as the discrete codes (if they exist) but who knows what other functions might be out there waiting to be found.

Why would you want them?

Well, we can't answer that until we know what you find, but first things first, we want to know what the functions are, just for the sake of knowing, then we'll let you and any other users out there decide if the functions serve any useful purpose or not.

whompus wrote:

cliefan wrote:From the manual: JUMP BACK - To jump back a certain time period that can be changed in the settings of the HDD.

Cool thanks. So that would mean jump forward will be advance.

That leads to my only other question. I only see F.Fwd and F.Rew which on most I have seen is chapter or title next and back. Does the remote only have those buttons or is that fwd and rew? And something else is next and back chapter or title?

F.REW - Briefly press the button during playback: Previous chapter or previous title
Hold down the button: Search backwards
Hold down the button during the still picture: slow motion backwards

So F.REW and F.FWD do chapters and fast forward/rewind

The Robman wrote:

cliefan wrote:I'm new to this so bare with me.... why would I want to know if the other OBCs work? I have all of the signals from the original remote, what more would i need? or is it just to have a COMPLETE upgrade with all of the OBCs that do anything to the unit?

A device will often support additional functions over and above those found on the original remote. The primary functions that people need, as mentioned before, as the discrete codes (if they exist) but who knows what other functions might be out there waiting to be found.

Why would you want them?

Well, we can't answer that until we know what you find, but first things first, we want to know what the functions are, just for the sake of knowing, then we'll let you and any other users out there decide if the functions serve any useful purpose or not.

Ok. I want them. But i prolly have to wait til i get to open this thing test out the codes eh? What is the best way to do it? Do i create a new upgrade with the OBCs i want to try assigned to certain buttons?

Yup, that's pretty much it.

Be aware that some codes can enter into a setup or diagnostic mode so back off if this happens rather than reset the firmware. In the DVDR70, for instance, if you send EFC 085 (OBC 235) and then press 121 212 005 255 and then press play it makes the darned thing region-free and turns off the macrovision protection and you wouldn't want that, would you ?

underquark wrote:Be aware that some codes can enter into a setup or diagnostic mode so back off if this happens rather than reset the firmware. In the DVDR70, for instance, if you send EFC 085 (OBC 235) and then press 121 212 005 255 and then press play it makes the darned thing region-free and turns off the macrovision protection and you wouldn't want that, would you ?

Good Warning, UQ . It's guys like you who help keep the noobs out of trouble, eh? 8)

underquark wrote:Be aware that some codes can enter into a setup or diagnostic mode so back off if this happens rather than reset the firmware. In the DVDR70, for instance, if you send EFC 085 (OBC 235) and then press 121 212 005 255 and then press play it makes the darned thing region-free and turns off the macrovision protection and you wouldn't want that, would you ?

geez i did that on my old apex dvd player, didn't think it was possible with newer hardware.

cliefan wrote:

underquark wrote:Be aware that some codes can enter into a setup or diagnostic mode so back off if this happens rather than reset the firmware. In the DVDR70, for instance, if you send EFC 085 (OBC 235) and then press 121 212 005 255 and then press play it makes the darned thing region-free and turns off the macrovision protection and you wouldn't want that, would you ?

geez i did that on my old apex dvd player, didn't think it was possible with newer hardware.

But not by using the exact same sequence, I think!

yeah not quite... i needed a mod chip, but thats about all i remember. its been a few years.

underquark,
how did you find those codes? certainly not by trial and error....?

cliefan wrote:underquark, how did you find those codes? certainly not by trial and error....?

Not this time. OBCs were gleaned from other Philips upgrades found in File section. DVDR70 unlock code found somewhere on Internet - it's basically a firmware downgrade since most DVD devices start off region-free and are then "up"graded to region-specific depending upon which market they're aimed at.

From my notes about the HDRW720 the steps are.
Put the unit in disk menu
use remote

Play

1 5 9

will see -- -- -- -- -- -- on screen then

12 12 12 005 255

play

for region free.

I think I got this from videohelp.com

Just an update....

The upgrade does work with the HDRW720. Got to have Christmas a little early and test it out.

Thanks everyone for the help and i hope someone else can make use of that upgrade!

I still want to look for discrete codes too, but this time of the year is busy.

I found some Discrete Codes last night.
My favorite one is the Previous/Last Channel function, which is missing on the original remote.

Heres a short list:

Previous Channel: OBC 10
Dim LCD Display: OBC 19
Slow FWD 1/8x: OBC 34
Slow REW 1/8x: OBC 35
F.FWD 4x: OBC 40
F.REW 4x: OBC 41
Goto to Beginning of Time Shift Buffer: OBC 43

OBC 42 does something, but I'm not sure yet. When i send it, it pops up as an unavailable function. So it may have a purpose in Disc mode while playing a DVD or something.

Thats it so far. When i test all of the OBCs I'll just add the useful ones to the upgrade and re upload it.

Thanks again everyone.

cliefan wrote:When i test all of the OBCs I'll just add the useful ones to the upgrade and re upload it.

Congrats on finding the additional codes. However, regarding the upgrade file, please don't JUST add the useful ones, instead please add all of them and just assign the ones that you feel are useful to actual buttons. That way the next user can decide for themselves which functions he finds useful.

The Robman wrote:

cliefan wrote:When i test all of the OBCs I'll just add the useful ones to the upgrade and re upload it.

Congrats on finding the additional codes. However, regarding the upgrade file, please don't JUST add the useful ones, instead please add all of them and just assign the ones that you feel are useful to actual buttons. That way the next user can decide for themselves which functions he finds useful.

yeah what i meant by "useful ones" was all obcs that did something. Since OBCs that didn't do anything wouldnt be useful.

poor choice of words, my bad