TV mode macro not working (URC-6131 - Extender 1)

[bonnie_Raitt]

Is the extender really running?
If in doubt, remove a battery, put it back, then press PVR, then Power.
The issue described initially, that TV works only on the first press, makes me suspect no extender there.

If you have 1K 6131, use PVR0PVx1 file.

My 6131 is the old model.

Would Toadtog, LKP, Pause, etc show up in IR if the extender was not present?

I tried to search for a more recent extender in the Files section but only saw the 6131nw files. I'm thinking these are not the ones I want. Can anyone point me to the correct one?

Thanks

[Mark Pierson]

Would Toadtog, LKP, Pause, etc show up in IR if the extender was not present?

Yes, but that doesn't mean it's running in the remote. The extender needs to be activated after ANY reset of the remote, which includes any upload or download done from IR.

I tried to search for a more recent extender in the Files section but only saw the 6131nw files. I'm thinking these are not the ones I want. Can anyone point me to the correct one?

The 6131 extenders are here.

[ElizabethD]

My 6131 is the old model.

That's ok, the files are the same. The difference is 1K vs 2K.

Would Toadtog, LKP, Pause, etc show up in IR if the extender was not present?

Not in 1K. There's no room. You will have to pick whatever fits. The protocols and devices are in the .txt files inclluded in the extender zip file Mark pointed to. The readme file describes what to do. It's been updated few months ago.

More detail, but it's all in the readme file by now, by mr_d_p_gumby
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 31&start=0
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:45 pm

[bonnie_Raitt]

Would Toadtog, LKP, Pause, etc show up in IR if the extender was not present?

Yes, but that doesn't mean it's running in the remote. The extender needs to be activated after ANY reset of the remote, which includes any upload or download done from IR.

OK. I guess I'm unclear on what you are asking me to do to activate the extender. I upload the IR info to my remote, overwriting it's content. I then press the power button to make it work. Is this the activation you are speaking of or is there another procedure I've forgotten?

Thanks for the links. Iwill compare the files to what I have

[ElizabethD]

Did you press PVR first?

[bonnie_Raitt]

Did you press PVR first?

No. What does that do for me?

[ElizabethD]

PVR followed by power enables the extender.
In all(?) other remotes it's done by TV then Power.

[Mark Pierson]

If the extender activates properly, the LED should blink 4 times. Doers that happen when you first press Power?

[bonnie_Raitt]

If the extender activates properly, the LED should blink 4 times. Doers that happen when you first press Power?

Yes. My procedure has always been to upload new code, light blinks on remote, press power button, light blinks 4 times, ready to go.

I've never heard of having to press the PVR button first. Is this so?

I am going to try to rebuild the IR file from scratch to see if maybe that will solve my problem. I notice when I start a new IR file it gives me 4 choices for URC6131. The first is the 1K version, the second is the 2K version, the third and fourth choices appear identical (perhaps because the last characters of their names are beyond the right side of the scroll box. Can anyone verify which one I select?

While waiting for a response I will try the 2K PVR entry

More detail, but it's all in the readme file by now, by mr_d_p_gumby
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 31&start=0
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:45 pm

The readme.txt file in the 6131 extender is dated 5/16/03 which matches the one I have

Thanks

[bonnie_Raitt]

Well I tried rebuilding the IR code by importing all the devices again. I ended up using the 4th choice for URC6131 under the "New" file pull down to create a new file. I added all the devices and entered the macros. However, now when I upload the code to the remote, I cannot get the red light to blink 4 times, no matter what keys I press. I also notice that I am missing devices TV:1800, VCR/DVD:1800, TV:1101, TV:1101, and TV:1106. By the looks of it, TV:1800 looks important. How do I get these back into IR?

FYI

If I reload the old code, the light blinks 4 times when I press the power button. I also notice that the old file says "URC-6131/6131nw PVR Remote Extender 1". As I recall, Rob was the one who originally loaded the extender since I purchased the remote from him

I'm beginning to think a Harmony remote might not be so expensive after all

Thanks

[Mark Pierson]

I ended up using the 4th choice for URC6131 under the "New" file pull down to create a new file. I added all the devices and entered the macros. However, now when I upload the code to the remote, I cannot get the red light to blink 4 times, no matter what keys I press. I also notice that I am missing devices TV:1800, VCR/DVD:1800, TV:1101, TV:1101, and TV:1106. By the looks of it, TV:1800 looks important. How do I get these back into IR?

You can't use IR's File, New... command to setup the extender. There's specific instructions in the readme about how to install and setup the extender.

[ElizabethD]

I'm getting confused here. [I'm rebuilding my computer (and you think remote is rough! don't wish it on your worst enemy) . No access to my stuff, but while my computer is building, I peek in here on and off].

I just downloaded your file. It is 2K, but the signature in RawData indicates 1K (PVR0PVx1) ?<-- my error, it is 2K signature. Is that the file you built or is that the image from the remote?
Which remote eeprom size and which extender are we talking about?

Edited

[unclemiltie]

1: as was mentioned you can't do a File-new on an extended remote. you have to load the hex into an existing remote file using the extender loader (which can be done in the latest versions of IR, you have to read the instructions)

2: you do not have to push PVR first to load the extender on the 6131. In most remotes the TV is the default device after a power-reset but on the 6131 PVR is, so the extender loads on the power button on the default device. When you reset the remote you should see

3: you have to be careful if you have a 1K or 2K 6131 as lots of stuff won't fit in the 1K so it is very stripped down.


After you upload your file using IR (with the extender) you have to push the power key to active the extender. This is done by loading a "bogus" device and key to load the protocol which is the extender. If you don't activate the extender the remote will continue on as if it is the base remote and much of the extender stuff will make no sense to the remote. On the 6131 pressing power after a reset or upload will cause the LED to blink 4 times indicating that the extender is now active. If you're not seeing that then the extender isn't loading properly.

[The Robman]

As I recall, Rob was the one who originally loaded the extender since I purchased the remote from him

Nope, wasn't me, I'm not an extender use myself so I wouldn't feel qualified to load one for someone.

[ElizabethD]

bonnie_Raitt, If you really want to do NEW+the hex file in IR, there's an option button to select by signature. Needed because "by description" option strips the filename. If this is 1K remote, pick the first file, if 2K, select last.
PVR01Kx1 (URC-6131(Old)_6131nwB00 PVR Remote Extender1 1K).rdf
PVR0PVR0 (URC-6131(Old)_6131nwB00 PVR Remote 1K).rdf
PVR0PVR0 (URC-6131(Old)_6131nwB00 PVR Remote 2K).rdf
PVR0PVx1 (URC-6131(Old)_6131nwB00 PVR Remote Extender1 2K).rdf

The way you coded TV macro should work, but, as Mark said you change O-keys to PVR, so it cant. I have a file in diagnosis for something else: http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php ... le_id=3527
Identical macro to yours is on the shift-TV. Ignore the fact that it's on shift. It works. And it does not affect any other device.

unclemiltie - Ok, I know that power alone will do it on 6131 2K, because the default on load is PVR. But I am not sure it can be counted on, and the Install.txt referenced by the readme file says:

12) To activate the extender on the remote, you must press the Power key (which
is defined to activate the extender only in the default device, which is PVR).

So to play safe, in case I push another button, PVR-Power sequence stays.