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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:38 pm
by 2devnull
underquark....thank you for being so extremely helpful. Would IC sockets work for this purpose?
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:59 pm
by underquark
You want a male, non-shrouded IDC header with 2 rows of of pins. If there's more that 6 pins then cut it down to size. When I bought my JP1 cable (from diygadget, I think) it came with a 6-pin header intended to be soldered in by those who have holes instead of pins. Watch that you don't push on the pins too hard as they can push through the plastic block that holds them then become loose and they're very difficult to line up perfectly thereafter. If you can't get a header (though how you could be anywhere on the planet and be able to get a JP1 cable but not an IDC header I don't know) then pins, needles, bits of stiff wire or whatever of between about 0.65mm and 0.85mm will fit (too small is too slack and too large will bust the sockets).
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:02 pm
by 2devnull
If I hold the male header on the pads, what orientation do I do it in? One on my pads is square and the others are round. Would I cause any damage if I but the wrong male head on the wrong pad? Thanks.
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:05 pm
by 2devnull
underquark wrote:You want a male, non-shrouded IDC header with 2 rows of of pins. If there's more that 6 pins then cut it down to size. When I bought my JP1 cable (from diygadget, I think) it came with a 6-pin header intended to be soldered in by those who have holes instead of pins. Watch that you don't push on the pins too hard as they can push through the plastic block that holds them then become loose and they're very difficult to line up perfectly thereafter. If you can't get a header (though how you could be anywhere on the planet and be able to get a JP1 cable but not an IDC header I don't know) then pins, needles, bits of stiff wire or whatever of between about 0.65mm and 0.85mm will fit (too small is too slack and too large will bust the sockets).
I was actually referring to a soldering socket in place of a perf board.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:58 pm
by 2devnull
ok, I got some "springs" from the UK, the JP1 cable from Canada (I live in US

).
Anyway, when I did an initial download with IR, it detected it as, 9960 B01 (4k eeprom)
Would the extender work with this? Verion 1 or 2? How do I install the extender? (just upload the ir file using IR?) Thanks.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:18 pm
by Capn Trips
2devnull wrote:Would the extender work with this? Verion 1 or 2? How do I install the extender? (just upload the ir file using IR?) Thanks.
A quick scan of the files section indicates that there IS NO EXTENDER for the 9960 B01 (yet?) - so your question is a moot one.
IF there were an apppicable extender, installation instructions usually come package with the extender zip file.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:08 pm
by underquark
With a 4K EEPROM (twice what most people have and 4x that of others) and no extender (yet) then go for upgrades as you have plenty of space for them. Create your upgrades to limit the amount of KeyMoves (shifted keys) and this will leave KeyMove/macro space for - eh... - KeyMoves and macros. If you do begin to run out of upgrade and KeyMove/macro then you can still learn some functions onto variuos buttons on your remote and use the upper part of the EEPROM memory. You'd need to wait for an extender if you were planning to use LKP etc.
I see that the file section doesn't have an extender specifically for B01 but why not give one of the B00 extenders a whirl. You can always retore a backup of your setup with IR if it fails.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:38 pm
by 2devnull
The only reason I asked, is even though IR detected it (9964B00) as a 9960 B01 (4k) I was wondering if the B00 extender would work.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:58 pm
by underquark
Try it and see (and then tell everyone else).
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:05 pm
by 2devnull
Can you point me to the list of features the extender provides? I has seen it before under the v1 but now I don't see v1 anymore.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:11 pm
by The Robman
The B00 extender will not work in the B01 remote.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:16 pm
by 2devnull
Rob,
Please clarify. My Remote says it is a 9964B00 on the back of battery cover. Does this mean I have a B00 remote? However, when I download from IR for the first time (have not uploaded to it yet), it selects the 9960 B01 (4k eeporm). I hope you see my confusion. Thank you very much for you continued help.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:59 pm
by The Robman
I haven't seen a URC-9964 in person (so to speak) so this is partially conjecture on my part, but here's what I suspect the story is.
First, they came out with the B00 version of the URC-9960, which is the one that we wrote an extender for, then they came out with the B01 version of the URC-9960. From an extender point of view, these are completely different remotes. Then, sometime later, they come out with the first Kameleon with the RF box, which they called URC-9964. They used the internals from the URC-9960B01 for this remote but they called it URC-9964B00 as it's the first version of the 9964. You see?
If IR.exe recognises the remote as being the B01 version of the URC-9960, I think that confirms that they used the same internals.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:05 pm
by 2devnull
yep, that make sense. Ok, so for now I don't have an extender to use but I have 4k eeprom. Is there a reason I will need an extender? The motion function can be turned off now by the functions in the unmodified remote so is there anything else I am missing by not having the added functions of the extender? Thanks again.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:05 pm
by whompus
What the extender offers for the B00 version anyway is in the first post in this thread by Nils.
I for one would like to see an ir layout of this 9964 remote myself. Would you upload an ir file from the remote in the diag area? Please.